Single-Payer Health Care

[Towntalk]

Financing Health Care Reform: 2009 vs. 2003

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/

[sfc_oliver]

Your single payer system would put at least 5 million out of work immediately with more to follow. It would increase costs as government programs seem to always be under budgeted. It would give control of about 1/6 of the US economy to the Government.

Thank you but no thank you. The W H O is a joke. Check the survival rates on something specific, say maybe Breast Cancer. I believe you will find a higher survival rate in the USA than most anywhere else.

http://mjperry.blogspot.com/2009/08/5-yr-cancer-survival-rates-us-dominates.html

Based upon period survival data for 2000-02 from 47 European cancer registries, 5-year survival rates were found to be higher in the U.S. than in a European composite for cancer at all major sites (see table above, click to enlarge). For men (all sites combined), 47.3% of Europeans survived 5 years, compared to 66.3% of Americans. For women, the contrast was 55.8% vs. 62.9%. The male survival difference was much greater than the female primarily because of the very large difference in survival rates from prostate cancer.

Thus, the US appears to screen more vigorously for cancer than Europe and people in the US who are diagnosed with cancer have higher 5-year survival probabilities.

Now tell me that W H O isn't wrong in some weird way. They are not a reliable source.

[Towntalk]

Amid the acrimony, Congress has consensus on some healthcare issues

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/healthcare/la-na-healthcare-common-ground2-2009aug28,0,7544165,full.story

[irishbobcat]

The Green Party has taken a strong stand, based in experience, to reform our nation's health care system.  All across the country, the health insurance debate rages.  The debate is centered around reforming the health insurance companies.

The Green Party has a tradition of going to the root of the problem.  The problem will not be addressed by making minor changes to require health insurance companies to provide a bit more health care to a few more people....  We exist not to dabble in small adjustments on the edges of corporate America, but instead  to pressure for basic reforms.  The Green Party honors health care as a basic right for all rather than as a rationed privilege only for those who have.   We advocate for a Single Payer Health Care System.  Our candidates stand firmly for Single Payer when they run for office, our elected officials stand for Single Payer when in office, and our members advocate for Single Payer in their daily lives.

The idea of health care as a right is not a radical position, but instead is part of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the founding document of the United Nations, of which the United States was a signatory in 1948.  It states:  "Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services"

Our health care system in the United States is the most expensive in the world.  A Single Payer system would cut the cost of health care delivery by as much as one third.

Our health care system was ranked 37th in 2000 by the World Health Organization.  A Single Payer system would be able to deliver better health care to more people.

Advocating for Single Payer is a protection....

...for each of us as individuals. Our nation's health care is only as strong as the weakest link.  If some of us are vulnerable to diseases such as tuberculosis, which is among us now, or to any of the predcited pandemics that will come with our population, water, and environmental challenges, then all of us are vulnerable.  The future of our nation's health security lies in our willingness to address the health of the least of us .
...for our nation's businesses, so that they might more fairly compete with other nations.
...for our workers, so that they might be as productive as possible
...for our cities, towns, villages, counties, schools, so that providing health care doesn't bankrupt them.
...for our children, that they might realize a healthy future.

[ytowner]

It is if you were a republican president over the last 30 years.

Obviously you never read 1984...

[ytowner]

How many times must we remind people of 1984 and Big Brother?

One of the few books I read in its entirety in high school.... Scary..
War is Peace right!?

[sfc_oliver]

How many times must we remind people of 1984 and Big Brother?

[ytowner]

Will never ever pass.

[Towntalk]

This report comes from CBS News, hardly a conservative network.

Democratic Health Care Bill Divulges IRS Tax Data

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/08/26/taking_liberties/entry5268079.shtml

Section 431(a) of the bill says that the IRS must divulge taxpayer identity information, including the filing status, the modified adjusted gross income, the number of dependents, and "other information as is prescribed by" regulation. That information will be provided to the new Health Choices Commissioner and state health programs and used to determine who qualifies for "affordability credits."

Section 245(b)(2)(A) says the IRS must divulge tax return details -- there's no specified limit on what's available or unavailable -- to the Health Choices Commissioner. The purpose, again, is to verify "affordability credits."

Section 1801(a) says that the Social Security Administration can obtain tax return data on anyone who may be eligible for a "low-income prescription drug subsidy" but has not applied for it.

[irishbobcat]

http://www.plunderbund.com/2009/08/27/why-we-need-government-run-universal-socialized-whatever-you-wanna-call-it-healthcare/