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The local Andy Capp town drunks will love that. They seem to think that it's perfectly alright to have our downtown filled with booze joints but little else.

Well, to be fair, this is already an existing establishment - the Downtown Circle convenience store. I guess he's expanding.
But good grief, how much is enough.

Maybe you should check out most downtowns. There tons of bars and restaurants
If you don't like it you don't have to go downtown

If you had to live downtown, and had to go to Boardman or Austintown to do all your shopping then I say turn every single street level storeroom into a bar, and then tell the downtown residents to go jump in the lake or move. If you want to wallow in a bar, that's your business, but 95% of the people who live in the tree high rises that cater to senior citizens have better things to do with what little income they have each month. OR DON'T THEY MATTER?
I seriously doubt that there are "tons" of bars in Canfield, Niles, Girard, Hubbard, Liberty, Campbell, Struthers, Poland, Austintown or Bever Township

Quote from: PD on April 28, 2015, 03:40:35 PM
Maybe you should check out most downtowns. There tons of bars and restaurants
If you don't like it you don't have to go downtown

Excuse me??  I am 56 yrs old and have "checked out" a LOT of downtowns in my day.  NONE of the downtowns in the cities I have lived in or near, have so many bars in such a small area.
Further, I pay taxes just like you do and expect to be able to go downtown just like everyone else.
How about a more family-friendly environment.  I guess THAT is too much to ask for.

If you aren't welcome downtown because you are over 50, then I guess I'm not either since I'm 75.

There are plenty of family friendly things to do downtown and restaurants
Oh wow
Robertos is family friendly
Friends roastery is family oriented
Susie's has hot dogs and tater tots. That's family friendly
Deyor is downtown
The circle market is great
There is a liquor store downtown now
Mvr is very family friendly
Wick park is right up the street
Ysu has tons of family activities
Covelli centre is downtown with a wide variety of shows
There will be a grocery store downtown soon enough
There is a hotel going downtown
Avalon pizza is very family friendly
There are events going on downtown every weekend this summer for everyone
B&o just had a night at the races for autism. I went to that. Lots of families
V2 caters to the nightlife and families
Go check out casa Ramirez. Great restaurant
A business won't go downtown if they feel they can't make money


Should I go on or are you not convinced there is something for everyone downtown

Your sarcasm is unwelcome, thank you. I know very well what is downtown, as I'm there many times during the week. '

I was at the Autism event at the B & O. As most everyone here knows, my son has high-functioning Autism.
I know where Wick Park is, I lived just a block from there for 2 yrs.
Being a single mother, I can't afford the Deyor, nor the Covelli Centre. 
I can't take my son to the festivals downtown, because due to the Autism and sensory issues, he can't deal with large crowds.
I took him to the Toby Mac concert at the Stambaugh just a few weeks ago, and we got about 1/3 of the way through and had to leave.

Most of the restaurants you mention have a bar in them. Imagine that.
The Downtown Circle market is following suit. That's what this thread is about, remember?

PD to be honest, you sound like just another downtown cheerleader.  Don't you think they have enough?

No sarcasm here
Just didn't know if you knew what there is to do
Why not take a walk down wick avenue and visit the many museums we have there?  Go have lunch at the MVR after


And no TT I actually don't like that loud crowded stuff. When I go out it is early so I can talk to my friends and family
Looking forward to these festivals coming up
Italian
Simply Slavic
Greek festival


I just don't like it when people just simply complain to complain. I agree that downtown isn't for everyone and you know what. A retail establishment may not survive unless it caters to the workers down there.

Glad to hear that my friend. For my part, when I use to go out to dine with family and friends it was to a restaurant in Cleveland that at night features a piano and organist that played "dinner music" and it was quite nice because you could carry on a pleasent converastion with your dinner guests without shouting, or simply sit back and enjoy the music.

Quote from: PD on April 29, 2015, 08:19:03 AM
I just don't like it when people just simply complain to complain. I agree that downtown isn't for everyone and you know what. A retail establishment may not survive unless it caters to the workers down there.

You will never, ever, see me complaining just to complain.  I have much better things to do with my time.   ;)

DITTO!

Roberts gas a nice atmosphere with music

Lounge music is a type of easy listening (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easy_listening) music popular in the 1950s and 1960s. It may be meant to evoke in the listeners the feeling of being in a place, usually with a tranquil theme, such as a jungle, an island paradise or outer space.^[1] The range of lounge music encompasses beautiful music (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beautiful_music)-influenced instrumentals, modern electronica (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronica) (with chillout (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chill-out_music), and downtempo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downtempo) influences), while remaining thematically focused on its retro-space-age (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_age) cultural elements. The earliest type lounge music appeared during the 1920s and 1930s, and was known as light music (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_music). Contemporaneously, the term lounge music may also be used to describe the types of music played in hotels (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotel) (the lounge, the bar), casinos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casino), and piano bars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piano_bar).

Don't forget "Show Tunes"...they used to be popular in many of the classier joints.
I used to get a laugh out of the phrase "Lounge Lizards" ....it's not meant to be
derogatory, just a little humor.

Wayne Newton and Tom Jones on the Vegas strip would qualify for this nickname.

Here in Youngstown we use to have several restaurants that featured piano or organ music while one dined. This city once had real class, not like the pathetic dump it is today.

Here are just three examples that were located downtown.

The third

And on the North Side

There were also some on Market Street and South Avenue, and when you went to any of these places they all had dress codes, you didn't go in looking like you just got off your shift at the mill.

I love some of those old black and white movies that show dinner clubs where they have
live performances, with small tables of two to four people and candles on each table, etc.
Definitely the more classy joints, not to mention a little romantic.....dinner by candle light
complete with entertainment.

:)

Take a gander at Moore's Sky Room Menu and tell me what you see.

It's taking you too long, so I'll tell you. It says "Chicken In The Rough (No knives or forks.). Geese

Yepp....a live pianist and vocals.... A touch of class rarely seen in the less expensive joints nowadays.


Sorry if I don't respond immediately.... I am at work and read/post messages in between work stuff....

That's alright, actually I'm sound asleep and this is all a dream ... nay nightmare. :laugh:

By the way that ad was from 1939 so adjust for inflation. Moore's was a high class restaurant reserved for the affluent. It was next to the Tod Hotel on the corner of Market Street and Boardman Street.

I can remember a time when some of the classier places would PUT a suit jacket on a guest if they
showed up for dinner and were not properly dressed for the occasion.....

There are still some places that do this.

Only thing that upsets me about the current state of downtown is the lack of live music. Cedars and Barleys used to fill that void. Suzies is starting to have bands more often though.

Quote from: Nicholas Serra on May 05, 2015, 02:39:57 PM
Only thing that upsets me about the current state of downtown is the lack of live music. Cedars and Barleys used to fill that void. Suzies is starting to have bands more often though.

Martini Bros and Warehouse 50 both have live music

That is as wonderful as wonderful can be Peggy. Thanks for the heads up my friend.