According to WKBN Pig Iron Press is no more ... the building has been sold ... and the new owners will open up a new business next spring.
There are no details about what sort of business will go into the space as yet.
The arts community is in a tizzy that all the development downtown is forcing them to look for another area where the rent is dirt cheep.
Jim should have paid his taxes, and maybe kept up with the times. He didn't want to use computers and that seriously impacted his business model.
I won't shed a tear for the arts community.
rr and tt the pig is not dead until the fat lady sings.
The artists kept buildings occupied. If the buildings were left vacant, they would have been stripped years ago and probably demolished by now.
ditto jay
iwasthere are you saying that WKBN News was telling a lie about Pig Iron Press? Why would they use the story as their lead story tonight if they didn't have all the facts?
Jay, maby you can help them locate along Mahoning Avenue. Fill up some of the empty buildings there.
QuoteJay, maby you can help them locate along Mahoning Avenue. Fill up some of the empty buildings there.
The Garden District Neighborhood Association on the west side has been encouraging artists to relocate to this area which boarders Mill Creek Park.
Fantastic! Maby if and when the Wonder Bread building becomes available that a group of artists could take it over and turn it into a gallery showcasing local artists work sort of like a West Side version of the Butler Instituite of American Art.
The artists are going to need a new business model if they are going to assume control over the Wonder Bread building.
tt i was told a different story by a person who is close to jv. the story is a coffee shop wants to rent out the bottom thus giving pip the upper floors to use for the pip business.
If you were to combine all of their accumulated knowledge of good business pratice you would still get nothing better that doom soup.
Certainly there are a very small handful of arts people who get it, Phil Kidd being an example, but the bulk of them haven't a clue, yet they want the downtown to be their playground with the taxpayers footing the bill.
Quote from: Rick Rowlands on December 12, 2012, 11:39:39 AM
The artists are going to need a new business model if they are going to assume control over the Wonder Bread building.
are you offering to draft an. artist's business plan?
tt phil kidd is not an artist but a busmn. who collects artifacts from the past and present of ytown's history for resale.
Judging the way Pig Iron Press looks, the Board of Health would never approve opening a food establishment in that building. Jim would have to clean up his business, get rid of all the junk and clutter and present a far better appearance that he has right now.
I like Jim, he's a swell guy, but lets face it, his establishment leaves a whole lot to be desired. Oh and by the way, he would have to find a new home for his dog.
That's my very point. If he were to be the lead in the arts community, it would be run in a business like way.
tt the dog died this past summer. do believe in grease.
One of the channels I watch on a regular basis is the Food Network and two of the shows that I watch there deal with restaurants and restaurant inspection, and rest assured that the building would have to add a grease trap, be fumagated, be completely remodeled in the area that food and drink will be served, and since there will be businesses on the upper floors that could impact on the coffee shop given the configuration of the building, there would have to be a barrier between the first floor and the upper floors to prevent any vermon from traveling.
Simply throwing down a coat of fresh paint and new flooring will not do it.
There will have to be updated plumbing ... new restrooms ... electrical updating ... the list is endless.
Remember, that building was once a tobacco wholesale house that also made cigars in house, so while it was OK for the uses that Jim used it, a food dispencing establishment is quite a different animal.
My understanding is the coffee folks rent the same type of storefront in downtown Salem. I assume they are well aware of rules and regulations regarding placing their business in the Pig Iron Press. I also assume they have toured the building, took notes, and believe they can open shop there. If not, shame on them.
Does anyone have any idea what the name of the coffee house will be? Do they have a web site? What else will they have on their menu? What is the name of the owners? Any time frame as to when they will open? What will their hours be?
If the rumors are true, I believe it's this company that will be moving in: http://www.friendsroastery.com/
I wish them luck, but not at the expense of any other coffee shops downtown. I know I will continue to get my hot chocolates from Joe Maxx.
it is my understanding that this cs was going into the erie terminal bldg but both parties got bogged down on nic and pic items.
If that is the new business, it will be a good fit for the arts folks.
any business dt is a good fit for all.
From their web site they seem to be into the arts displaying paintings in their store. If the poetry group still meets upstairs it would be a perfect bohemian artist/poets gathering place ala the beat generation. Do poets still use bongo drumbs?
tt the beat goes on with the bohemian crowd.
I believe the last bohemian artist/poet to use bongo drums was Maynard G. Krebs...
ibc you are dating yourself.
Yes,yes I am.
:) Dennis was just a wee broth of a lad when Doby Gillis was on TV. :) Now talk about ancient of age yet sound of mind and limb, those who can remember sitting around the radio and listening to Archie Andrews, there you are getting a poor soul of long years.
TT, you are right...back in the 40's when you were listening to Archie on the radio I probably even wasn't a glink in my father's eye or future plans as he was island hopping towards Japan....
You got that right, and my Stepfather was riding around Europe with his Sherman tank blowing up things.
was dobie gillis the first break for bob denver, who became gillian on gillian's island.
Quote from: Towntalk on December 13, 2012, 11:56:09 AM
You got that right, and my Stepfather was riding around Europe with his Sherman tank blowing up things.
tt was your sf responsible for blowing-up my family homes in san fior, italy?
I Was There...no, I believe the entertainment committee was responsible....
No, he was racing through France with Patton, while my cousin was piloting his Liberator reigning down terror on German cities.
ibc that entertainment committee since its conception has been a terror on mankind. tt the reason for that question is for clarification. i was visiting my it fam in it for the first time several yrs ago. one of the questions during this visit was, "the bombs that fell on thier homes in san fior did your grandfather(thier father's brother) make the bombs at the steelmill in which worked all of his life until his death? tt this was the question made me speechless and tongue tied for the first time in my life.
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Quote from: Rick Rowlands on December 14, 2012, 11:25:13 PM
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You are the damn school teacher. Figure it out for yourself! Moron Number two!
someone must not had thier bran flaks this morning. are you referring to the pic on this blog under your name or my question to towntalk? you wonder ? i and others do not have any respect for you or your endeavors with your remark from your last entry on this thread. you wonder ? i bad mouth or sabtoge your name and your projects to the businesses and people. the ole adage, you can gather more bees with honey then with vingear.