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Youngstown & The Mahoning Valley => Mahoning Valley, in General => Topic started by: ytowner on December 01, 2011, 09:26:51 AM

Title: The Need for Drilling
Post by: ytowner on December 01, 2011, 09:26:51 AM
My Jambar editorial this morning:
http://www.thejambar.com/letter-1.2678100#.TteOfpTOW8A
Title: Re: The Need for Drilling
Post by: irishbobcat on December 01, 2011, 10:04:46 PM
Mikey, when our water and land becomes contaminated , when our local streams dry up because the fracking companies bleed them dry to pour water down fracking holes, and when our countryside is riddled with acres destroyed by abandoned well sites, will you still be proud to call this area your home?

It's sad that you pro-fracking only fix your eyes on the very short-term potential of a few individuals making a quick buck and
refuse to see the long-term effects fracking will cause our area......




Title: Re: The Need for Drilling
Post by: Youngstownshrimp on December 02, 2011, 12:54:19 AM
Keep up the thorough reporting on this new industry that will save us all.

"I Love the smell of Fracking in the morning!"
Title: Re: The Need for Drilling
Post by: ytowner on December 02, 2011, 03:00:25 PM
Quote from: irishbobcat on December 01, 2011, 10:04:46 PM
Mikey, when our water and land becomes contaminated , when our local streams dry up because the fracking companies bleed them dry to pour water down fracking holes, and when our countryside is riddled with acres destroyed by abandoned well sites, will you still be proud to call this area your home?

It's sad that you pro-fracking only fix your eyes on the very short-term potential of a few individuals making a quick buck and
refuse to see the long-term effects fracking will cause our area......



Those companies are investing billions into eastern Ohio and unemployed people will finally get back to work.

Williamsport, PA and parts of North Dakota are booming from their drilling. The Utica Shale is even bigger than their areas of drilling!

JOBS JOBS JOBS!!!
Title: Re: The Need for Drilling
Post by: irishbobcat on December 02, 2011, 04:16:19 PM
Mikey...So it is safe to say you don't give a crap about our valley's streams and water
becoming overrun with toxic chemicals just as long as there are jobs, jobs, jobs?

Will these fracking companies invest billions and billions to help clean-up contaminated streams,
water tables, and land poisoned by the deadly toxins being pumped underground?

Mikey, you are nothing more than a 21st century carpetbagger.....a sinner among men.....

Thanks for not caring about the land and water that your children and grandchildren will be lefted with
after fracking leaves a scar across our valley.....

Thanks for not leaving the water and land better for future generations.....
Title: Re: The Need for Drilling
Post by: ytowner on December 02, 2011, 04:20:59 PM
Quote from: irishbobcat on December 02, 2011, 04:16:19 PM
Mikey...So it is safe to say you don't give a crap about our valley's streams and water
becoming overrun with toxic chemicals just as long as there are jobs, jobs, jobs?

Will these fracking companies invest billions and billions to help clean-up contaminated streams,
water tables, and land poisoned by the deadly toxins being pumped underground?

Mikey, you are nothing more than a 21st century carpetbagger.....a sinner among men.....

Thanks for not caring about the land and water that your children and grandchildren will be lefted with
after fracking leaves a scar across our valley.....

Thanks for not leaving the water and land better for future generations.....
And once again, what is your plans to create thousands of jobs locally?
Title: Re: The Need for Drilling
Post by: irishbobcat on December 02, 2011, 05:19:31 PM
Mikey, I have no plan.....but your plan is hell bent on destroying the environment so some
big business folks can make some quick money and leave us high and dry alone to deal with the toxins in
our water and land after fracking is done....

You are so hell bent on making a buck at any cost you can't see the whole picture....

Folks with small minds rarely see the whole picture.....
Title: Re: The Need for Drilling
Post by: ytowner on December 02, 2011, 11:12:01 PM
Quote from: irishbobcat on December 02, 2011, 05:19:31 PM
Mikey, I have no plan.....but your plan is hell bent on destroying the environment so some
big business folks can make some quick money and leave us high and dry alone to deal with the toxins in
our water and land after fracking is done....

You are so hell bent on making a buck at any cost you can't see the whole picture....

Folks with small minds rarely see the whole picture.....
Your plan is to try to scare every single person in this valley to get your agenda across. We see right through it.

The Valley wants these jobs, hence the BROAD support across party lines for this movement!

JOBS! JOBS! JOBS!
Title: Re: The Need for Drilling
Post by: irishbobcat on December 03, 2011, 12:20:21 AM
And you will try to get your agenda across by promising big bucks while refusing to tell
the people of the dangers of fracking......

you will refuse to tell them about poisoned water and poisoned land......

You will lie....you will be dishonest...and you be willing to commit to the destruction of our
valuable water and land because you think you can make a buck out of fracking....

to be willing to destroy ther people's water and land makes you truly one sick, warped, individual....

where are your morals? where are your brains? Time to quit sitting on them and study up on the dangers of fracking.....
Title: Re: The Need for Drilling
Post by: Rick Rowlands on December 03, 2011, 06:40:55 AM
Dennis, you have been hurling broad accusations but I'm not seeing any facts.  Where are the polluted wells at?  Where are the polluted streams?  Tell me how the OEPA is going to not force cleanup of a surface spill.   You act as if we are living in 1912 Youngstown and not 2012 Youngstown.  You operate on the false premise that a choice has to be made, that we have to trade our (semi) clean streams and water wells for jobs and prosperity.   No choice is being made here or required to be made.  Fracking is a safe procedure that has been done millions of times since 1948 and there are only scant instances when there have been problems.



Title: Re: The Need for Drilling
Post by: irishbobcat on December 03, 2011, 11:43:54 AM
Ricky...fracking is not a safe procedure......

what will you say and do for the families who have their water supply tainted?

Will you and the fracking companies conpensate them for the damages caused by fracking?

Will you buy them a new home? New land? Will you pay for their medicial expenses?

You will do nothing but shrug your shoulders and say "oh well"......

Title: Re: The Need for Drilling
Post by: ytowner on December 03, 2011, 08:19:58 PM
Quote from: irishbobcat on December 03, 2011, 11:43:54 AM
Ricky...fracking is not a safe procedure......

what will you say and do for the families who have their water supply tainted?

Will you and the fracking companies conpensate them for the damages caused by fracking?

Will you buy them a new home? New land? Will you pay for their medicial expenses?

You will do nothing but shrug your shoulders and say "oh well"......

Like I said, the radical environmentalists can only use the last play in their playbook, environmental scare tactics, to get their point across.

It is not going to happen IrishBobcat. Drilling has been taking place and tons more will soon be started. People locally are getting upwards of $5000/acre and 20% royalties.

Very exciting times in Youngstown!
Title: Re: The Need for Drilling
Post by: irishbobcat on December 04, 2011, 12:09:02 AM
Yes, you pro frackers may score with handing out cash, but in the end you folks
will not be there to help land owners who have poisoned water and land....
when their property loses all it's values, you pro-frackers will not lift a finger or spend a dime to help.....

You folks will remain the cold-hearted, rutless, money bastards that you are......

I can sleep at night knowing I take the moral high ground on this issue......and am on the right side....

You folks are simply pure evil......enjoy your eternity in hell......
Title: Re: The Need for Drilling
Post by: Youngstownshrimp on December 04, 2011, 01:43:14 AM
Yes!  I can't wait for the rigs to get going, gathering pipes laid and the mandating of the entitled abled bodied to get into the ditches and start working instead of sitting on their asses. Boy is Youngstown going to boom again like it was built for.  And all the lower class lazy loosers will be priced out of the market and have to move  out of prosperity away from the DOers of the new Youngstown.  Only productive people will return to Youngstown which will even propell us further into advancement.  Community organizing Marxist will wither away into the hills to start guerilla warfare but they will fail, there ideology is outdated.
Title: Re: The Need for Drilling
Post by: irishbobcat on December 04, 2011, 10:35:48 AM
Youngstown will not get rich from fracking.......

It is indeed a sad time in the valley when slimy individuals make a buck with fracking
by failing to tell the truth to land owners about the dangers of fracking to their water and land.....

Fracking land men lie to homeowners about how safe fracking is.....they will continue to
take their money...and when the water goes bad and land is worthless...they will say "oh well"
and run away after the damage is done...

Seems like these individuals who support fracking are the same individuals who support every
shady business deal that comes down the pike.....can't wait to see what their next
dirty little scheme is.....
Title: Re: The Need for Drilling
Post by: ytowner on December 04, 2011, 10:38:34 AM
Quote from: irishbobcat on December 04, 2011, 10:35:48 AM
Youngstown will not get rich from fracking.......

It is indeed a sad time in the valley when shrimpy little men make a buck with fracking
by failing to tell the truth to land owners about the dangers of fracking to their water and land.....

Fracking land men lie to homeowners about how safe fracking is.....they will continue to
take their money...and when the water goes bad and land is worthless...they will say "oh well"
and hide like the little bitty shrimps they are.....

The fracking land men sucks the life out of those poor individuals who swallow hook, line, and sinker
by waving a little dollar bill in front of their noses....

Seems like these individuals who support fracking are the same individuals who support every
shady business deal that comes down the pike.....can't wait to see what their next
dirty little scheme is.....
We support JOBS. It is obvious you are against jobs like V&M and others that are getting our economy back on track!!!
Title: Re: The Need for Drilling
Post by: irishbobcat on December 04, 2011, 11:23:51 AM
You support destroying the water and land of your neighbors....

You support not telling the truth to home owners about the dangers of fracking.....
you fail to tell homeowners about all the deadly toxic chemicals that will be pumped down their
well holes.....

You support the practice of telling land owners that only "sand and water" are pumped into the drill
sites.....a fat out lie.....

You support the eventual destruction of our environment....

You support the dirty fracking agenda of Dick Cheney and Dubya Bush.....and that's really frightening....
Title: Re: The Need for Drilling
Post by: Youngstownshrimp on December 04, 2011, 06:19:18 PM
Ahhhhhhhhh........yes,  so nice to see free enterprise rushing back into Youngstown just like the rush of natural gas out of a quicksilver rig.  Don't see or hear much of the Green loosers here anymore, the real GREEN team has arrived, first green aquaculture now , Green fuel.  Even the Marxist Community organizers are hiding behind their pork jobs which are soon to be defunded.  What a life now that the work is almost complete, the working class are coming in and soon we will outnumber the entitled savages.  Got to love it, defunding of the pork is happening while free enterprise is rushing right in, life is so good for the capitalist right now.
Title: Re: The Need for Drilling
Post by: irishbobcat on December 04, 2011, 08:04:47 PM
Such a sad state of affairs when you see pro-fracking capitalists like Shrimp taking
such glee in damaging other people's water and soil through the toxic fracking process....

How low and dishonest are pro fracking folks when they confess to loving the fact that they
have no problem destroying our environment....they even refer to this as life being good....

Pro fracking folks are like the snake that tricked Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden.....
they get a kick out of destroying God's creation of land and water......

Like the snake...pro fracking folks are pure evil.....people, please be on your guard when a
snake or shrimp come calling.....
Title: Re: The Need for Drilling
Post by: ytowner on December 04, 2011, 10:38:00 PM
Quote from: irishbobcat on December 04, 2011, 08:04:47 PM
Such a sad state of affairs when you see pro-fracking capitalists like Shrimp taking
such glee in damaging other people's water and soil through the toxic fracking process....

How low and dishonest are pro fracking folks when they confess to loving the fact that they
have no problem destroying our environment....they even refer to this as life being good....

Pro fracking folks are like the snake that tricked Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden.....
they get a kick out of destroying God's creation of land and water......

Like the snake...pro fracking folks are pure evil.....people, please be on your guard when a
snake or shrimp come calling.....
So a good 55-65% of people in MV that support it are evil? And that number may be even more... i lowballed it.
Title: Re: The Need for Drilling
Post by: irishbobcat on December 05, 2011, 02:37:36 PM
yes, yes,  you are...
Title: Re: The Need for Drilling
Post by: Rick Rowlands on December 05, 2011, 11:20:41 PM
Dr. Jeffrey Dick, Geologist from YSU was on WKBN Monday morning for an hour discussing this topic.  Basically, the dangers of fracking are greatly overblown, the State of Ohio's regulations are more stringent than Pennsylvania's or the Federal government's regulations, and the area will reap many benefits from this new industry.
Title: Re: The Need for Drilling
Post by: Youngstownshrimp on December 05, 2011, 11:41:48 PM
" I Love the Smell of Fracking in the Morning!"
Title: Re: The Need for Drilling
Post by: irishbobcat on December 06, 2011, 04:01:20 PM
Funny how Dr. Dick is the ONLY YSU Geologist ever interviewed about fracking...

Why does the media only quote Dr. Dick? I know of other members of the geology dept. at YSU that are anti-fracking....
why are they never interviewed?

Dr. Dick  must be getting a pretty nice hand out from the pro-fracking forces and companies.....
Title: Re: The Need for Drilling
Post by: Youngstownshrimp on December 06, 2011, 08:30:24 PM
I think Dr. Dick is a capitalist agent of the fracking companies, he has no shame endorsing the harvesting of our energy.  Fracking destroys the universe, the sun is now endangered of imploding because of the excess release of fracking fluids by drilling.  In addition, not only is the water table being polluted and now a flamethrower, frack fluid is now entering the oceans and is endangering the whale and starfish.  Because of injection wells, the weight of the oceans pulled by the moon is now tipped by these wells wherein massive earthquakes are now amongst us.  With all this man made disaster, we must all go back to bicycles and cutting down the forest to heat ouselves.
Title: Re: The Need for Drilling
Post by: Why?Town on December 06, 2011, 10:16:31 PM
Shrimp, you're fracking me up!!! :) ;) :D ;D :laugh: