North Side grocery store

[Towntalk]

Elm Street Red and White at the corner of Elm and Thornton ... it use to be Sturgens United untill they sold it to the current owner and they are open weekdays from 8:00 AM til 9:00 PM and Sunday's from 8:00 AM till 7:00 PM ... also don't count on produce, they have a very limited produce section. But it is good for in between regular shopping trips and as far as the city goes I do a lot of regular shopping at Union Plaza Save-A-Lot, but my main store is as you said Giant Eagle.

[Peggy Gurney]

What store is that TT?

[Towntalk]

There's one right across the street from me, but they do not have a regular meat counter but they do sell deli products.

[Peggy Gurney]

My point was that not enough Wick Park area residents support this market.  Will the same residents support a market at the R&S location?  I don't think they will.
We should all support our own side of town and also support other things happening anywhere in the city.

FYI
The North Side Farmers' Market will be closed next Saturday because of the holiday weekend.

There is plenty of support for a grocery store on the north side. I live here and hear people talk about it all the time.  It does not have to be a large one. We don't need a Giant Eagle-sized store, for sure. But we needs something more than a Farmers Market or a convenience store (like Downtown Circle).
You can't possibly compare a Farmers Market to a full service grocery store. Can you purchase Milk, toilet paper, a loaf of Schwebel's bread, Cheerios, etc at the FM?

So yes, absolutely a grocery store is needed on the north side. Otherwise we have to continue driving to Liberty and Hubbard for our grocery needs.

[AllanY2525]

Eventually' there are going to be more student apartments developed
on Michigan and Ohio Avenues south of Wick Park.  I know someone who
bought several vacant lots in the neighborhood after the arsons a couple
years ago ( and the demolitions that resulted from same ) and the plan to build
several more apartment buildings there, when the time is right.

The population near Wick Park IS growing....it's just going to be a while before
it reaches the critical mass needed to support a large grocery store in that
area.

[Billy Mumphrey]

I have been told by friends who have children living off campus at other universities in the state that there are small grocery stores set up in areas where there are students. These areas also have a good size of local residents as well who can shop during summer months when students head home after spring semester.

[jay]

The YSU students who live in the Lyden and Cafaro Dorms all have meal tickets for campus eateries.  Most eat at the Christman Dining Hall right next to the dorms.

[AllanY2525]

Another thing to take into consideration is the college kids....the ones who are living in
the dorms will not, most likely, be buying much in the way of regular groceries ( ie: 
foods that you and I would prepare at home).

A grocery store with ready to eat sandwiches,  a deli, bakery, etc  might have a good
chance at being a success if close to the University and downtown.    Prices would need
to be very competitive with the  other nearby stores.

[Towntalk]

I agree that whenever possable that we should support local businesses, but does that mean that we should go to the NSFM every saturday even though there is nothing there that we really need? I buy for the month, and don't need to go to the store in between times for staples, and I don't eat a lot of cookies, so that the NSFM has precious little that I need. As far as bread and milk are concerned if I should need them, there is a store across the street from me that I can get them at. As to fresh produce is concerned, the only fresh vegetables I get are lettuce, tomatoes and white and sweet onions for making salads, and occassionally when I'm hungry for them green tomatoes.
I certainly applaud your efforts to buy locally, but at least in my case, I'm homebound and my friend who takes me shopping works on Saturdays, so for me at least, that's out.
As to supporting the market, if it is a full service store, and the prices are reasonable, I see no reason why it wouldn't be supported, but let me ask this question, Number 7 Fire Station will be building a new fire station in that area, and I thought it would be located near where that grocery store is suppose to be located.

[jay]

My point was that not enough Wick Park area residents support this market.  Will the same residents support a market at the R&S location?  I don't think they will.
We should all support our own side of town and also support other things happening anywhere in the city.

FYI
The North Side Farmers' Market will be closed next Saturday because of the holiday weekend.

[Towntalk]

It's not his postings of west side events, it's his judgemental posts about folks not supporting such things as the North Side Farmers Market.
We here on the North Side had someone who kept up to date posting North Side event, but was driven off mahoningvalley.info by her critics, and I try to post some of the events, but since I'm homebound, I don't have the luxury of getting around to learn of more, and see little need to post every new business that opens on the North Side, and yes, I thank Jay for his Norh Side events posts.
Jay has done a lot of good, especially in the downtown area and made it possable for members to get to know each other better, and I applaud him, and perhaps one day he might organize a get together on a Sunday afternoon for monthly get-togathers for members at a downtown location where we can discuss ways to benefit the city as a whole as a group. Sunday would be ideal since more of us could attend, especially in the afternoon.
We are blessed with many great folks here, and could do a lot of good for our community, and Jay would make a great organizer.

[northside lurker]

The building needs a lot more work than originally thought. (I've even heard some people say that the building will need to be demolished and replaced, but you know how rumors are.)  Also, the deal between Mr. Marchionda and Mr. Adi (owner of Downtown Circle) who was going to operate the store, similar to his downtown store, fell through.  Maybe the deal fell through because Mr. Marchionda's time frame didn't fit with Mr. Adi's?  But now that there isn't a tenant lined up, it seems like Mr. Marchionda is in no rush to fix the building.  Some neighbors (I'm a northsider now) are speculating that the downtown grocery store will follow the same path as the north side store that never happened.

Towntalk, why are you so convinced that Jay has some kind of west side superiority complex, or something?  Is it just that he posts about west side events more often? (being from the west side, wouldn't he know about more of those?)

[Towntalk]

Are you posted there from the time it opens till the time it closes ? Did it ever occure to you that people in the area either have productive real world jobs or are students at YSU that have more important things to do than ram to the North Side Market every little whipstitch? It's not like that it's a full service market. Give us a break we don't need a west sider telling us when and where to shop. Does the west side have a farmers market? You seem to think that the west side is superior to the other sides of town so it should have it's own farmers market with the finest food items that money can buy ... far superior to what's sold at the North Side Farmer's Market, and in greater quanity.

[jay]

I stop at the North Side Farmers' Market frequently.  Most of those who shop there are not from the Wick Park area of the north side. 

[AllanY2525]

Strong grocery stores need strong patronage in order to remain profitable and
stay in business.  Mr. Marchionda may have determined that a grocery store
was not a viable venture at the old R & S site.

It is true that the near north side/Wick Park neighborhood would benefit from
a real, honest-to-goodness grocery store - it will probably happen some day when
the neighborhood population has gone up some more and there enough patrons
to sustain one.