"Youngstown's New Wealth"

[irishbobcat]

Don't let neo-con Fascist Shrimp breeders sell you a pig in the poke.....

Fracking is dangerous to the environment.....

[Youngstownshrimp]

Interesting how the communist strategy is to divert from the truth and reality, but let us get back on the important issues here.

I was just informed that one land owner in the area just rec'd $2200 per acre for the signing bonus, so the price is still going up.  So far we have not heard a peep from the City on the peoples gold mine, "The Landbank."  I do not think they have a clue and we know they have been giving the minerals away to the older gas companies for nothing.  Are we to sit her and watch our community land be handed over without the proper compensation? 

[Youngstownshrimp]

Please refer to "Fracking and Crapping"

[irishbobcat]

answer the question, Shrimp...simple as that......

you won't, because YOU know the truth.....

[Youngstownshrimp]

Dennis,  Fracking as with Sewer treatment are bad to a degree for the environment.  So your argument is to stop all fracking and sewer treatment, correct?

[irishbobcat]

Nice comeback, Shrimp.....now who is acting like a child and resulting to "gas" jokes......

Shrimp, yes or no question.....do you believe fracking is 100 percent safe and causes NO harm to the environment?

[Youngstownshrimp]

Produce the qualified source Dennis.  Until then refrain from crapping in your toilet and flatulating methane gas.

[irishbobcat]

The type of drilling used on the Marcellus Shale formation involves fracking: pumping a mixture of sand, water, and chemical additives under high pressure into the shale to fracture or break up the shale so as to release a greater flow of natural gas.

Fracking even a single natural gas well consumes millions of gallons of water, which can be a significant burden on local water tables.

As things currently stand, frackers are exempted from having to comply with the Clean Water Act. This means they can legally poison the water. By hiding behind a claim the chemicals are proprietary knowledge they are not even required to inform the public of the chemicals that they are pumping into the ground, which can include methanol, diesel, anhydrous ammonia, ethylene glycol, toluene, xylene, various other complex hydrocarbons, some of which are proven carcinogens, hydrogen sulfide (aka hydrosulfuric acid), other industrial acids, arsenic, and possibly even radioactive barium!

Each well produces millions of gallons of industrial wastewater that require cleaning.

While the drilling is occurring, each well typically stores their fracking water in a pit near the drilling pad. If these pits overflow or leak they contaminate local water supplies and cause environmental damage.

Worse yet, each well typically leaves 20-25% of the toxic fracking water (i.e. over a million gallons per well) in the ground. That in-ground pollution has the potential to poison aquifers that provide local drinking water. Residents of Ridgway, PA, found their spring water supply poisoned by local drillers. The water was unfit even to shower in, as it burned and interfered with breathing.

[Youngstownshrimp]

Come on Dennis, we are patiently waiting for YOUR technical explanation here.

[irishbobcat]

FRACKING IS STILL BAD FOR OUR ENVIRONMENT, RON!

[Youngstownshrimp]

The only way I and most astute Americans will believe Anti-drilling people is if they lead by example.  We will capitulate when we see them ride bikes permanently and heat their homes with Cow Dung.  Otherwise they are just all "flash" and no "Cash" hypocrites.

And the other problem we have about these communist is that they would rather we bow down, kiss their %$%, and send our money to the oil states who kill us.

[Towntalk]

George says:

[irishbobcat]

FRACKING IS BAD FOR OUR ENVIRONMENT.

[Youngstownshrimp]

The citizens of Youngstown MUST seize control of Youngstown's new wealth before it is squandered by the entitled ruling class.  Before Christmas, when the second Texas size rig in Ohio hit oil in Lake Milton, the starting price per acre (signing bonus) was $1500.  Last week the standing offer rose to $2000, it is expected by the experts to rise much more.  The City of Youngstown's landbank which sat dormant for 40 years, is now a gold mine literally.  As an example, 100 acres on Oak street (eastside), in 90 days can generate $200,000, when the oil is tapped based on economies of scale the royalties per month at the minimum will be "$80,000 per month for 30 years."  This folks is what you call passive income.  Now factor all the acreage held by the City Landbank and Youngstown has potential to become a powerhouse again. 

But here is the kicker, we in YTown are so stupid we are going to give the largest landbank in Mahoning county to an entity with insignificant track record and deeply entrenched in politics.  If we citizens of Youngstown REALLY want Youngstown to prosper we need to place all lands in an entity that can handle the management of this new found wealth.  As we speak the private sector is gobbling up land and closing ranks to cooperate with the large energy companies in town.  The public sector has a significant amount of land that must be assembled and managed correctly or we will miss the boat.  If we really want to defend Youngstown, we must act now.