Election Issues-The War

[Towntalk]

Technically you are quite correct Allan, but the news media certainly doesn't see it your way, just as it didn't see it that way in Vietnam, and this leaves only to ask who is correct ... you or the news media, and I suspect that the press will say they are, and being the final arbiters of all matters under the sun, moon and stars, the matter will be left to history to decide once and for all. Always remember that in their mind they are never wrong, and would rather bash their heads against the walls of intrangency than admit otherwise.

[ytowner]

War or not a war. Obama wants to leave before the job is done.
McCain is the reason we are winning this war or conflict right now.

MCCAIN 2008

[AllanY2525]

Iraq is not a war - it is a "conflict".  An actual WAR would require a declaration OF war by
the President which, in turn, would require the approval of Congress.

Here is an excerpt from a web site I found:

"Consider the words of James Madison, the father of our Constitution: "Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few."

What does our Constitution say about war? Our Founders divided war into two separate powers: Congress was given the power to declare war and the president was given the power to wage war. What that means is that under our system of government, the president cannot legally wage war against another nation in the absence of a declaration of war against that nation from Congress.

Again, reflect on the words of Madison: "The Constitution expressly and exclusively vests in the Legislature the power of declaring a state of war [and] the power of raising armies. A delegation of such powers [to the president] would have struck, not only at the fabric of our Constitution, but at the foundation of all well organized and well checked governments. The separation of the power of declaring war from that of conducting it, is wisely contrived to exclude the danger of its being declared for the sake of its being conducted."

Therefore, under our system of government although the president is personally convinced that war against a certain nation is just and morally right, he is nevertheless prohibited by our supreme law of the land from waging it unless he first secures a declaration of war from Congress. That was precisely why presidents Wilson and Roosevelt, who both believed that U.S. intervention in World Wars I and II was right and just, nevertheless had to wait for a congressional declaration of war before entering the conflict. And the fact that later presidents have violated the declaration-of-war requirement does not operate as a grant of power for other presidents to do the same.

What about the congressional resolution that granted President Bush the power to wage war against unnamed nations and organizations that the president determines were linked to the September 11 attacks? Doesn't that constitute a congressional declaration of war? No, it is instead a congressional grant to the president of Caesar-like powers to wage war, a grant that the Constitution does not authorize Congress to make.

Therefore, when a U.S. president wages what might otherwise be considered a just war, if he has failed to secure a congressional declaration of war, he is waging an illegal war — illegal from the standpoint of our own legal and governmental system. And when the American people support any such war, no matter how just and right they believe it is, they are standing not only against their own principles and heritage, not only against their own system of government and laws, but also against the only barrier standing between them and the tyranny of their own government — the Constitution. "

[Elmo-Ytown]

Why do we need the draft? The military is and is proud to be made up of volunteers. Not only are they all volunteers, but they are the best trained, best equipped and most feared military in the world.

The American public doesn't support the war anyways, why, because they are misinformed by the liberal leaning media. You know, the ones with the chills running up the back of their legs.

[irishbobcat]

If this is a war, then bring back the draft, have everyone's sons, daughters, grandsons and granddaughters serve in Iraq.....and see how long the American public would want us to stay there.

Dennis Spisak- Green Party write-in candidate for Congress-6th district

[ytowner]

I favored the war, I still favor the war, we are winning the war, and I would never accept defeat.
Rumor has it we'll be out of there by the end of 2011-2012, if things continue to progress?

Why? BECAUSE WE ARE WINNING!

[irishbobcat]

Election Issues-The War

August 22, 2008

I have been asked what my position would be if elected to Congress regarding the war:

I opposed the invasion of Iraq and oppose the continued occupation of the country. Greens favor an immediate withdrawal of US troops and US influence over Iraq as an occupying power.
I favor giving the UN and a regional coalition a major role in dealing with security issues during Iraq's transition to a new government. I also favor to continue the hunt for Bin Laden with U. N. Aid.
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