Vote YES for the Community Bill of Rights

[Youngstownshrimp]

Dennis, I mean after rejection the first time, they should pick up the tab.
I'm always in the store Sat. don't protest my store now  .

[Irishbobcat]

Ron....your last statement is unacceptable as well......citizens having to pay to address and petition their government? WOW!!!!!!

Then I guess the only people left in America would be corporations!!!!!!

(I still need to get over and see you in Poland...you only there on Saturdays?)

[Youngstownshrimp]

Dennis,  I agree with you, as long as they pay for the cost and not the taxpayers.

[Irishbobcat]

Sorry Ricky, but people have the right to petition their government...it's in the Constitution.....and there is no limit on petitioning...or don't you support the Constitution, you commie socialist?

[Rick Rowlands]

But once you vote and lose three times, you have had your say and you must either live with it or wait for support to change in your favor before trying again. 

[Irishbobcat]

Ricky.....I'm surprised you want government to limit a citizen's right to petition it's government. I thought you dis-trust government and dislike far-reaching government

powers?

Are you now no longer a tea-bagger?

[Youngstownshrimp]

Billy, you have that right NOW!  as long as it is your FRACKING HOLE!  I know you get it but are being unfair, you are smarter than that.  On my Land and private Land, it is none of your business what we do as long as it does not affect you.  Show us where a COURT DECISION was made that fracking harmed you or any of you ilk?

[Towntalk]

Please first excuse me for being so blunt, but this crazyness really riles me up, so if any of you don't like the terminology that I'll use, just get a life and move on unless you want the sharp end of my tongue, because I'm in no mood to be politically correct. These self-centered egotistical anarchists are not only doing harm to the community as a whole, but they are also doing harm to the University that is putting bread on their table via the tax payers and feeding their brats... they are therefore parasitic leaches that should be held in contempt by the hard working folks that pay the taxes that help keep YSU open.
Oh I know that these leaches pay taxes just as the rest of us do, but the amount that they pay in no way covers what it costs to keep the university going, and anyone who says any differently is a bald faced liar! If you combined the taxes payed by everyone who works for YSU, that amount would never cover the total expences for keeping the university open, so what Susie and her old man pay in taxes is just a drop in the porta-potty, and just as useless in the grand scheme of things, and I have more contempt for them than I have for the worst criminal making their way through the county's justice system, and it angers me that so many well meaning people fall for their propaganda simply because they are university teachers as if that makes them creatures so great that their words are as coming from God.

[Rick Rowlands]

I think that the law that permit citizens ballot initiatives needs to be amended so that an issue can only come up for vote a maximum of two times in five years or even longer, so as to avoid this situation.  Putting this on the ballot yet again is akin to throwing a tantrum because you can't get your way.  The people have voted three times. I think we all know by now what they want.  So its time to give this up and live with the vote. 

[Towntalk]

Dennis, it's not a question of winning or losing from my perspective, it's a case of being realistic, and the group pushing this issue is not being realistic. They may be university professors, but apparently they have absolutely no understanding of settled law, but see themselves as being above the law and a law unto themselves.
They've been told that local laws can not superseed state or federal law, yet that makes not a bit of difference to them ... example Youngstown can not hamper interstate commerce period, and there are no exceptions period.
When out of state companies started filling up local landfills, Youngstown tried to regulate who could or could not use our landfills, or transport landfill material through the city only to be told that they did not have the authority to hamper interstate commerce.
There are federal regulations governing interstate transporting fracking liquids just as there are Clean Air and Clean Water laws, and they all superseed any regulations a community enact, and if a local community tried to enforce those local regulations, they would be struck down in the federal courts.

The local anti-fracking measure is being driven by a group of anarchists who see themselves as the final arbiter on every matter  under the heavens above, and the majority of the voters have said no to them, and they'll keep saying no because Frack-free has never changed it's fundamental message, and it's interesting to note that the final vote count for each of their times on the ballot has been the same general percentage.

[Irishbobcat]

Maybe it is time to quit beating a dead horse......You win Ron, Rick, and TT.....

[Towntalk]

That's what Norman Thomas said every four years for dozens of Presidential elections, and that is also what Gus Hall also said for an equal number BUT neither man even came close to winning the White House.
People like Susie are a distraction, but nothing more and in time the media will lose interest in her and her followers.

[Billy Mumphrey]

I just want no toxic chemicals being dumped down fracking holes.

[Youngstownshrimp]

Billy, this gives some importance to your life doesn't it? 

[Billy Mumphrey]

We have just begun to fight.