What A Green Party Governor would mean for Ohio's Healthcare Reform

[irishbobcat]

Then let's agree to disagree....cause you won't change my mind, and I won't change yours.....

[sfc_oliver]

Dan, it's in there.....not specifically, but government is to serve the general welfare of the people......

Let's put people before Big Business !

Serve the General Welfare? I don't believe so. "Promote the general Welfare" Means something a lot different.

And Dennis I am not bitter about what I was promised and what I received, It's simply a statement of fact.  I do not support your single payer health care for all because i have seen it in action in Europe. Surprise surprise I lived there over 14 years while on active duty and my first wife is German. I have 2 adult sons who worked in Europe and can testify as to how screwed up it is. Not Bitter, just fact. I do not want your socialist health care in the USA. I believe thr voters in Massachusetts have made that clear for most of us.

[Dan Moadus]

How did I know you were going to say that? Liberals love that "General Welfare" clause and cite it for everything they want to do.

Copied from Leonard R. Sorenson in an article from "Publius":
"According to James Madison, "the most important and fundamental question" he ever addressed was the meaning of and relation between the general welfare clause and the enumeration of particular powers. This question is the most "fundamental" because the answer determines the very "idea" or "nature" of the U.S. Constitution. Commentators virtually agree on the answer Madison proposed and defended in Federalist 41, namely, that the general welfare clause is neither a statement of ends nor a substantive grant of power. It is a mere "synonym" for the enumeration of particular powers, which are limited and wholly define its content. From this answer, it follows that the primary meaning of the national dimension of the federal Constitution is limited government, understood as a government with a limited number of powers or means. The thesis of this essay, however, is that, contrary to the commentators' claims, Madison argued that the clause was a substantive grant of power for the generally stated end and that the primary purpose of the ensuing enumeration was to define more particularly the ends alluded to by the phrase "general welfare." Hence, the meaning of the general constitutional government in the American federal system is a government oriented to a limited number of limited ends."

[irishbobcat]

Dan, it's in there.....not specifically, but government is to serve the general welfare of the people......

Let's put people before Big Business !

[Dan Moadus]

Dennis, where in either our State's Constitution or our nation's, is there a provision for the government to provide health care?

[irishbobcat]

Sarge, just what do you want?? besides being bitter in Lowellville? You don't support single-payer health care for all because it puts people first before healthcare and drug companies?

You and the 5 nuts on the Supreme Court were probably the only ones happy about yesterday's Supreme Court Ruling!

Single-payer health care: The we can do better alternative plan to today's health care mess!!!!!

[sfc_oliver]

I have the health care that I earned. Not what I was promised but what The congress decided was good enough. I will go on any site i desire and complain about anything that is not right in my opinion. So Dennis, too bad for you that the people of America do not want your Socialist medicine for all.

[woozle]

I'm sorry I don't think the green party is the answer either.. We need to elect leaders, that will do what's good for the country.. So as far as I'm concernend the green party can go pound salt along with the Democrats and Republicans... We need compent leaders not puppets... So vote smart America.. your grandchild's future depends on the choices we make today..

[irishbobcat]

Sarge, then don't come on this site and complain about your current health care problems and your son's as well.....

[sfc_oliver]

Would that be like the health care they have in Massachusetts? I wonder why they voted for the guy who said he would work against the health care bill?

How high do you want state taxes to get? My Son worked in Germany, his salary was about 3500 Euros a month. He brought home less than 2000.  And this is what you want? No thank you.

[irishbobcat]

What A Green Party Governor would mean for Ohio's Healthcare Reform

Ohio would see a proactive push for the Health Care for All Ohioans Act. This Single-payer healthcare plan would be a major focus of being adopted in Ohio.

The number one reason to reform Ohio health care is because to simply improve the life of all Ohioans. Under the current system Ohioans must bear the financial burden of medical costs and many have no health care or have been bankrupted by health costs. It doesn't have to be this way as every wealthy country has universal coverage. Universal health care would be cheaper and better than our current system.

The second reason is to have a society that helps its less fortunate members. The Health Care for All Ohioans Act would be a cornerstone for a new New Deal. This is key to our domestic rebirth in Ohio.

Governor Strickland does not support the Act. He supports keeping the status quo and big insurance companies and HMO's that suck high premiums from Ohioans. Ted Strickland has spent too much time being courted by health insurance lobbyists. It's time to move Ohio foward into the 21st century with Single-Payer Health Care.