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Clean energy to create more jobs than coal: Study

Started by irishbobcat, September 15, 2009, 07:53:27 PM

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Rick Rowlands

Once again, no electricity coming from your synapses in that reply Dennis.

irishbobcat

Not much electricity coming out of your campaign either, republican dan!

Dan Moadus

Unfortunately, the two biggest alternatives mentioned (wind and solar) don't require the labor intensity as does mining for coal and drilling for oil. Once the panels and windmills are installed, what's left to do? Looks like "oiling" and "glass cleaning" will be the growth jobs of "green" energy.

On the way to D.C. for the march, I noticed five or six wind generators just off the PA. pike. Not one of them was turning (They were on the way back though). It was very overcast with a slight rain. I thought, "A lot of expensive equipment sitting around doing nothing". Not much electricity being made that day.

Rick Rowlands

"Teske said that the report was not advocating creation of millions of jobs in uncompetitive labor-intensive clean energy industries propped up by government subsidies."

This is the one thing that I worry about.  If alternative energy can survive and thrive on its own without government subsidies then I am all for it. 

When I was at the Fair there was a 10KW wind generator in one of the tents.  The rep said that the unit would cost $60,000 installed, but that up to $40,000 could be paid by government grants and incentives.  The unit was not anything elaborate, it actually looked quite simple and relatively easy to construct.  I just wonder, if those government subsidies and incentives were removed, what would the price of that 10KW wind generator be in 3 years?  5 years?   It reminds me of the auto industry before Henry Ford came along.  Before Ford, cars were very expensive and only the rich could afford them.  There were very few in existence and those that were around were custom built.  Doesn't that sound like the wind generator market right now?  If someone came along and decided to mass produce these things and make them cheap enough so that EVERYONE could afford one, then I think you would have something that would absolutely catch fire.  But the one thing that stands in the way of that are the government subsidies, artificially propping up the market and discouraging the next Henry Ford of wind power. 

irishbobcat

Clean energy to create more jobs than coal: Study
Clean energy to create more jobs than coal: Study
OSLO (Reuters) - A strong shift toward renewable energies could create 2.7 million more jobs in power generation worldwide by 2030 than staying with dependence on fossil fuels would, a report suggested Monday.

The study, by environmental group Greenpeace and the European Renewable Energy Council (EREC), urged governments to agree a strong new United Nations pact to combat climate change in December in Copenhagen, partly to safeguard employment.

"A switch from coal to renewable electricity generation will not just avoid 10 billion tons of carbon dioxide emissions, but will create 2.7 million more jobs by 2030 than if we continue business as usual," the report said.

Governments were often wrong to fear that a shift to green energy was a threat to jobs, said Sven Teske, lead author of the report at Greenpeace. He said that the wind turbine industry was already the second largest steel consumer in Germany after cars.

"Renewable power industries can create a lot of jobs," he told Reuters of the outlook for solar, wind, tidal, biomass -- such as wood and crop waste -- and other renewable energies in power generation. "This research proves that renewable energy is key to tackling both the climate and economic crises," said Christine Lins, Secretary General of EREC, which represents clean energy industries.

Assuming strong policies to shift to renewables, the study projected that the number of jobs in power generation would rise by more than 2 million to 11.3 million in 2030, helped by a surge in renewables jobs to 6.9 million from 1.9 million.

COAL DECLINE

Under a scenario of business as usual, the number of jobs in power generation would fall by about half a million to 8.6 million by 2030, hit by mainly by a decline in the coal sector due to wider mechanization.

Teske said that the report was not advocating creation of millions of jobs in uncompetitive labor-intensive clean energy industries propped up by government subsidies.

"Renewables must be competitive in the long run," he said. Labor costs would be higher but costs to drive a renewable power industry would be lower, for instance, in a world where it cost ever more to emit carbon dioxide from fossil fuels.

The report said that, for the first time in 2008, both the United States and the European Union added more capacity from renewable energies than from conventional sources including gas, coal oil and nuclear power.

The report suggested the wind sector alone, for instance, could employ 2.03 million people in generating power in 2030 against about 0.5 million in 2010.

"The union movement, as well as the authors of this report, believe ambitious climate action by world leaders can and must be a driver for sustainable economic growth and social progress," Guy Ryder, General Secretary of the International Trade Union Confederation, said in a statement.

The report was based partly on research by the Institute for Sustainable Futures at the University of Technology Sydney.

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Charlie Wilson, read it and weep along with you coal
lobbyists!

Dennis Spisak
Mahoning Valley Green Party
Ohio Green Party
www.ohiogreens.org
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