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The Real Truth About Issue 2

Started by irishbobcat, October 07, 2011, 03:46:22 PM

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Rick Rowlands

Even publicly funded healthcare plans contract with private insurers to provide the coverage. 

irishbobcat

Dan, you and your pro SB 5 killer clones are trying to take away all benefits and bargaining
rights from public employees.....you want them to have no power......again, you love to screw the workers....

Rick....when you take away benefits from workers.....where will the workers have to go to
pick up these benefits?....back to private business.....and your fat cat big business folks pick up another corner
of the market to make more money from.....

Rick Rowlands

I don't understand how an issue that only applies to public employees has anything to do with big business and private employees.  Dennis tell me how money saved by local governments will end up being paid to private businesses. 

Dan Moadus

Dennis, do you really expect people to believe that SB5 takes away the health care plans of public employees? You aren't really helping your cause when you make ridiculous statements like that.

irishbobcat

Dan, tell your lovers AKA big business to start providing hospitalization to their employees instead
of putting that money into the back pocket of over paid CEO's.......

Because public employees have something Big Business won't provide for their employees.....you simply want
to take it away then from public employees.....that's bull....Dan.....

Dan, you now want SB 5  to take away health care plans away from public employees, and then you will come
after their paychecks.....

Dan loves playing reverse Robin Hood....steal from the poor, and give to the rich.......

When will you be satisfied, Dan?  when the middle class is no more? When the rich own it all?

Dan Moadus

Nice dodge Dennis. Just mouthing union approved statements doesn't make it so.  Where do you get that SB5 will, as you say, "take away decent livings" from the middle class.  The bill doesn't even address wages. You "feedbaggers" focus solely on "fairness". Where is the "fairness" for all the people in the valley who do not have hospitalization, but have their taxes used to fund "Cadillac" health care plans for public employees?

irishbobcat

Dan, so destroying the middle class in Ohio is in the public interest?

You want the middle class destroyed for what reason?

You want to take away a decent living from Ohio's firefighters, police, nurses, and teachers
so that big business and fat-cat politicians can line their pockets even more with their new found cash?

So Dan's plan is to take money away from the middle class.....take money out of their pockets....
lower their ability to pay taxes.......so who will pay the taxes, Dan?  the rich? No...you'll want to cut
the rich more tax breaks on top of that......

Sorry, Dan....your plan has no legs......

You and your neo-con cronies want to again destory middle America and the middle class in Ohio....

You are pure evil, Dan.....  your hate for the middle class is sad......you should seek professional help for your
hate problems, Dan.....

Dan Moadus

Dennis, Dennis, you got some "splainin" to do.

How will a bill that requires public employees to pay their fair share of pension and benefits lead to the loss of 51,000 jobs?

Who are these companies who you say stand to gain, and just how will they gain if Issue2 passes?

You say you will never outspend the likes of the Koch brothers and Karl Rove. How do you know they are spending any money supporting Issue 2, and how much are they spending? And, how much did the unions spend trying to recall Wisconsin politicians, and how much are they spending in their opposition of Issue2?

Seems to me that you "feedbaggers" are putting your self interests in front of the public interests.

Vote "YES" on Issue2.

irishbobcat

Senate Bill 5 is now Issue 2. You may have already heard some of the misleading information being spread about Senate Bill 5/Issue 2 and are understandably confused as to what it is and how you should vote on the referendum.

In March, Columbus politicians rammed Senate Bill 5 through the legislature. The flawed and overreaching piece of legislation that takes away our collective bargaining rights immediately generated widespread outrage all across Ohio and a push to repeal it began. The repeal effort reached a milestone in June when We Are Ohio delivered more than 1.3 million voters' signatures to the Secretary of State's office, officially placing Senate Bill 5 on the ballot as Issue 2.

Since that time, there have been many myths spread about Issue 2, but the basic ideas and motivations behind it are strikingly clear. Issue 2 is an extremist, right-wing power grab and an unfair, unsafe law that hurts us all and attempts to balance the budget on the backs of hardworking Ohioans. Senate Bill 5 does not create a single job. Combined with the state budget, it will lead to 51,000 fewer jobs in Ohio.

Columbus politicians received over $3.6 million in campaign contributions from companies that stand to directly benefit from Issue 2. These big corporations, their high-paid lobbyists, and the extremist politicians they fund are blaming middle class Ohioans for a budget problem they themselves created. And they're doing so while putting all of our families' safety at risk.

Now, our opponents are spending millions of dollars to spread lies and distortions. They've used false statistical comparisons, cast a "teacher" who is also a county GOP chairman in their TV ads, and employed numerous other tactics to push their agenda.

We need you to know and understand the truth about Issue 2 and to share this information with your friends and family. We'll never outspend the likes of the Koch brothers and Karl Rove in this campaign, but together we can outwork and out-volunteer them in order to defend hardworking Ohioans from their attacks.