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Youngstown & The Mahoning Valley => Youngstown Memories => Topic started by: Towntalk on May 19, 2010, 05:28:18 PM

Title: Downtown Quiz
Post by: Towntalk on May 19, 2010, 05:28:18 PM
Before there was a Man on the Monument what was located there on that site?

John, not even you are old enough to remember this one.  :)
Title: Re: Downtown Quiz
Post by: john r. swierz on May 19, 2010, 06:57:48 PM


  I think that I saw somewhere that there were civil war cannons on that side. If there was something  let me jog my memory.
Title: Re: Downtown Quiz
Post by: Towntalk on May 19, 2010, 07:52:23 PM
Sorry John, but the cannons came after the erection of the monument. I need to know what was there before the monument.

Clue, it was long before 1875.
Title: Re: Downtown Quiz
Post by: john r. swierz on May 19, 2010, 09:05:50 PM


    Was it the hitching post and water trough for the horses?
Title: Re: Downtown Quiz
Post by: Towntalk on May 19, 2010, 10:30:12 PM
Nope, it wasn't the hitching post.
Title: Re: Downtown Quiz
Post by: Towntalk on May 20, 2010, 05:43:16 PM
I'm amazed that no one got the answer to this one yet.   ???
Title: Re: Downtown Quiz
Post by: sfc_oliver on May 20, 2010, 05:46:53 PM
Wasn't there just posted a drawing showing a pond?
Title: Re: Downtown Quiz
Post by: Towntalk on May 20, 2010, 06:05:05 PM
Yes, but that's not the answer.

When they started to build up in the area of the square they filled in the pond. The Stambaugh building is located where that pond was.
Title: Re: Downtown Quiz
Post by: john r. swierz on May 20, 2010, 09:15:56 PM


    How about a gaezbo !
Title: Re: Downtown Quiz
Post by: Rick Rowlands on May 20, 2010, 10:05:27 PM
It was a sign saying, "Coming Soon, Youngstown War Memorial"
Title: Re: Downtown Quiz
Post by: Towntalk on May 20, 2010, 10:26:52 PM
Answer: Youngstown's first schoolhouse.

1875

COMMENCING ON THE NORTH SIDE OF FEDERAL, STREET AND
GOING WEST.
1—John Loughridge, log house:
2—Widow Murdock, log house.
3—James Hillman, frame ; late II. Manning.
4—Samuel Bryson, log; now J. R. Squire.
5—Corner Diamond, log, owned by Samuel Bryson ; now
Mrs. Bissell.
6—Presbyterian Church on the hill.
7—William Wick ; now King's feed store.
8—Henry Wick, frame ; now Harber's shop.
9—Henry Wick, log ; now Wick's bank.
10—Henry Manning, log ; now Woodbridge.
11—C. B. Wick, frame; now J. F. Hollingsworth.
12—Philip Kimmel, frame ; now Smith & Medbury.
13—Robert Pollock, frame : now J. F. Hollingsworth.
14—Daniel Morris, log ; town hall on part of it.
15—George Hardman, part frame ; now L. Wick.
16—William Rayen, shingled house, sides and all ; now
Calvin Shook.
17—William Rayen, log ; Decker & Miller occupying.
18—William Rayen, hrick ; now Parmelee.
19—Jeremiah Tibbit, log ; now A. J. Pollock.
20—Widow Dabney, log ; now Westlake.

SOUTH SIDE, GOING EAST.
21—John E. Woodbridge, frame ; now Smith.
22—Mr. Hollingsworth, log ; now Smith.
23—Mansion House lot, log house, owned by Judge Tod ; now
Anderson.

FRONT STREET.
24—Jonathan Smith, log ; now E. G. Hollingsworth.
25—Moses Crawford, log ; now S. J. Atkins.
26—John Day, frame ; now Thomas Davis.

BACK TO FEDERAL STREET.
27—Charles Dutton, frame ; now Bissell.
28—Methodist Church, F. Barclay's heirs.
29—William Thorn, log house on the Diamond ; now the
Tod House.
30—Henry Wick, brick ; now M. T. Jewell.

31—Log school house on the Diamond where the soldiers'
monument stands, where the late Hon. Gov. Tod got his education
in boyhood days.

32—Josiah Polly, frame ; now the heirs of the late Edward
Moore.
33—Henry Wick, frame ; now Parish & Nash.
34—James McCartney, log ; now heirs of J. Pritchard.
35—Robert Leslie, log ; now John Manning.


The log school was the first school in Youngstown and was built between 1806 and 1807.
[Howard Aley – A Heritage To Remember – pgs. 35-36]

It was, in fact, a half century after the settlement of Youngstown
before there was any adequate school system here. Education was not
wholly neglected in the meantime, of course. As early as 1802 or 1803
the handful of settlers made the initial provision for schooling their
children by the erection of a one-room log school building in the public
square. The first teacher was Perlee Brush, a bachelor of perhaps
more than ordinary attainments who later became a lawyer and still
later a farmer.
[HISTORY OF YOUNGSTOWN AND THE MAHONING VALLEY – J.G. Butler – Vol. 1 pg. 282.]

David Tod, reared as a farmer boy at the old Brier Hill
farm, and being aniong the youngest of his father's children,
had, with his father's limited means at that early period in Ohio,
none of the educational advantages or opportunities enjoyed by
the youth of the present day. His only early education was
obtained at the day schools, which were held for only a short
portion of the year. He received his further education at the
old Burton Academy in Geauga County, Ohio.
[Hon. David Tod Biography and Personal Recollections – George B. Wright – 1889 pg.102.]


Cf:
[Some Account of the History of the Tod Family and Connections By John Tod – 1897 – pg. 93]

Note that there is a four year difference between the Aley and Butler accounts.