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Youngstown & The Mahoning Valley => Youngstown in General => Topic started by: Mary on May 10, 2009, 11:40:47 AM

Title: Question for the Mr. Swierz
Post by: Mary on May 10, 2009, 11:40:47 AM
Mr. Swierz do you know how many employees are on the Youngstown City payroll? Total union and non-union as of the end of the fiscal year 2008? I have reviewed the audited 2006 and unaudited 2007 reports and could not find this information.
Title: Re: Question for the Mr. Swierz
Post by: john r. swierz on May 10, 2009, 12:25:42 PM


        It is not exact, but close to 825 total. I would say that 75% of that number is Civil Service/Classified employees. The rest are what is called Management(unprotected) employees.  These numbers are public record and can be retrieved by calling the Human Resources Supervisor , Mrs. Marti Kane.  I served on the Ygn Fire Dept for 25 years and retired as a Captain.  Each  front line department could justify having more employees , but the finances are not there.  That is the reason that those departments react slowly most of the time.  Example, it is hard to have an effective Housing inspection division when there are only 4 Inspectors to inspect the entire city, and so on..........
Title: Re: Question for the Mr. Swierz
Post by: rusty river on May 13, 2009, 09:32:11 AM
Mr. Swierz, I was wondering which council members (if any) in the past have supported expanding the Housing Code Enforcement and Zoning departments' budgets in order to provide adequate code enforcement of the city's ordinances.

The city has 4,500 vacant structures, and this number is undoubtedly increasing on a monthly basis.
If our 3 building inspectors are really hustling, they can visit and assess each site ONCE a year...maybe. Add on top of that the 37,000 occupied structures in Youngstown. To inspect each of these properties once a year, our building inspectors would each have to visit about 60 sites every day. Since there are 7 working hours in a day, and factoring in an hour of total travel time, the inspector would only be able to spend about 5 minutes at each site. Factor in some time to fill out the necessary paperwork and documentation, and maybe that leaves 20 seconds for actual inspection.

The city has over 60,000 parcels, each with a specific zoning classification. Currently, Youngstown has ONE zoning inspector.

It is obvious that housing and property issues are a top priority for Youngstown's tax payers (and voters...), as this is usually the main topic of discussion at every single neighborhood meeting that I have personally attended.

My question is why don't the actions of council regarding the city budget reflect this priority?

And I know of one council member in particular who goes out of their way to stir up anger and resentment amongst constituents towards city hall, and particularly at the four individuals i mentioned above, all but saying its employees are lazy and incompetent.

Please explain to me how council expects us to believe that it has the city's best interests at heart, when its actions prove otherwise.
Title: Re: Question for the Mr. Swierz
Post by: rusty river on May 15, 2009, 09:48:20 PM
hmmm......
Title: Re: Question for the Mr. Swierz
Post by: Mary_Krupa on May 15, 2009, 10:28:22 PM
I have been saying for years that most of our city's problems stem from the fact that there is negligible code enforcement due to the lack of inspectors. Ungaro cut so many inspectors. There used to be around 26 now we have around 4. Unbelievable.
Title: Re: Question for the Mr. Swierz
Post by: rusty river on May 20, 2009, 09:32:55 AM
Still waiting for a response....
Title: Re: Question for the Mr. Swierz
Post by: john r. swierz on May 20, 2009, 10:06:30 AM


        I can't remember one council member that didn't support the hiring of more Housing Insp.  All council could ever do was put the funding in place.  The hiring of personnel is the sole responsibility of the mayor. If they choose not to hire , thats it.  Council could then get into an adversial relationship with the mayor.  I have said this  for years,because of a lack of a good funding stream, government has "downsized its self to inefficiency" .  Code enforcement is one of the areas.
Title: Re: Question for the Mr. Swierz
Post by: rusty river on September 09, 2009, 03:35:59 PM
The Plain Dealer recently published an article about the productivity of Cleveland's housing inspectors. The publication also surveyed the 7 other largest cities in Ohio (not including Akron). Guess which city is at the bottom of the barrel?

YOUNGSTOWN

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The Plain Dealer surveyed other urban areas* in Ohio to see how the productivity of their housing inspectors compares with their counterparts in Cleveland. Here are the findings, reported as average number of inspections per day.

Cleveland: 3

Cincinnati: 10 or 11

Columbus: 8 to 15

Dayton: 5 to 7

Elyria: 7 or 8**

Lorain: 8 to 10

Toledo: 15

Youngstown: 3

*Akron is not included because the city relies on Summit County for inspection services.

**Because of budget cuts, Elyria housing inspectors also handle commercial buildings.

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So at the current rate, it will take our city's 2 building inspectors (one just got laid off) nearly 26 years to inspect the over 37,000 structures in Youngstown just once.

Maybe before we talk about funding and personnel issues, someone should require our city's current building inspectors to DO THEIR JOBS.


http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009/08/some_cleveland_housing_inspect.html
Title: Re: Question for the Mr. Swierz
Post by: sfc_oliver on September 09, 2009, 04:16:54 PM
Yet a few years ago my Dad was cited because of one downspout not being attached...
Title: Re: Question for the Mr. Swierz
Post by: john r. swierz on September 09, 2009, 08:34:04 PM


    I agree, its not a pretty picture. Money the ingredient that is missing to hire more inspectors. We must hen train them and equip them properly and hope that they do their job
Title: Re: Question for the Mr. Swierz
Post by: Rick Rowlands on September 09, 2009, 10:46:16 PM
Our one building inspector has been out to the Tod Engine Heritage Park twice to look at our work in progress. 

One thing to consider when comparing the number of inspections done is how many other jobs are the inspectors doing?  In Youngstown due to cuts in personnel the inspector is not only doing inspections but also doing a good bit of paperwork at City Hall.  Perhaps that workload in Cincinnati, Columbus or Toledo is being handled by assistants.  Cleveland and Youngstown have made cuts in City Hall and that increases the workload and as a result the number of inspections fall. 

My guess is that our one building inspector is already DOING HIS JOB, and perhaps the jobs of two or three other people as well. 

BTW, why should the building inspector have to inspect all 37,000 structures in Youngstown?  Do you even know what triggers a building inspection? DO you know how the process works?
Title: Re: Question for the Mr. Swierz
Post by: rusty river on September 09, 2009, 10:50:57 PM
Mr. Swierz, it is not enough to sit back and "hope" that city employees are competently performing the jobs that the voters and tax payers are paying them to do, ESPECIALLY with the budget issues the city faces.

Why doesn't council demand that there be more accountability for job performance of the city's employees? Why is it that building inspectors in Toledo can conduct 15 inspections a day, in a city with similar vacant and abandoned property issues as Youngstown, yet our inspectors can only muster 3???

I know you've attended your fair share of community meetings throughout the years, and I'm certain that at every one of them the housing issue is arguably the number one concern expressed.

Blighted structures harbor and further perpetuate crime.
Blighted structures present a safety and health hazard.
Blighted structures drastically reduce property values.
Blighted structures prevent further investment into our city's housing stock.
Blighted structures prevent business development and investment.
Blighted structures deplete scarce city resources through city-paid demolitions and the deployment of our police and fire departments because of crime and arson.

The official policy of our building inspectors is to do NOTHING until they receive a complaint. By the time complaints are made, there is already a problem. It is reactionary. The point of code enforcement is to PREVENT blight. Unless the policies and procedures of this department are completely overhauled, it won't matter how many demolitions we do or how much NSP money we receive, because there is ZERO maintenance in our city's neighborhoods.
Title: Re: Question for the Mr. Swierz
Post by: rusty river on September 09, 2009, 10:55:23 PM
Rick, the inspector that visits you only visits new construction sites. This is an entirely different department.

I am VERY familiar with the ENTIRE process, from the necessary paperwork all the way to demolitions, and it is not being done competently or effectively.
Title: Re: Question for the Mr. Swierz
Post by: jay on September 10, 2009, 06:22:07 AM
I assume that these inspections often result with taking someone to court or to a hearing.  Is time spent in court counted as an inspection?

I know police officers also spend time in court which takes them away from patrolling our streets.
Title: Re: Question for the Mr. Swierz
Post by: rusty river on September 10, 2009, 11:22:39 AM
The city has a dedicated code enforcement officer on staff through (I believe) the county sheriff's department. If code violations result in an arrest, she is the one who makes it and follows up in court.
Title: Re: Question for the Mr. Swierz
Post by: Rick Rowlands on September 10, 2009, 12:33:10 PM
So what is the correct title for this inspector? 
Title: Re: Question for the Mr. Swierz
Post by: rusty river on September 10, 2009, 06:56:48 PM
Quote from: Rick Rowlands on September 10, 2009, 12:33:10 PM
So what is the correct title for this inspector?

I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that the man that visits your site is Tony. He works for the Public Works Dept. and makes sure new construction is in compliance with building codes and standards.

You can read more about his department here http://www.cityofyoungstownoh.com/city_hall/departments/building_inspection/inspection.aspx

The building inspectors that I am speaking about work for the Demolition/Housing Code Enforcement Dept. It is their responsibility to inspect homes for structural code violations and to enforce them. http://www.cityofyoungstownoh.com/city_hall/departments/demolition/demolition.aspx
Title: Re: Question for the Mr. Swierz
Post by: Rick Rowlands on September 10, 2009, 07:33:06 PM
OK thanks that clears that up.
Title: Re: Question for the Mr. Swierz
Post by: john r. swierz on September 10, 2009, 10:00:41 PM


        The inspectors that work out of the Housing/Demolition Dept are Housing inspectors and there is also a housing officer