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Youngstown & The Mahoning Valley => Youngstown in General => Topic started by: jay on March 14, 2009, 06:26:22 AM

Title: The Awnings Of Youngstown
Post by: jay on March 14, 2009, 06:26:22 AM
Did you ever notice how many of these decorative awnings have fallen in disrepair?  This one is located on lower Mahoning Avenue near the WRTA administrative offices.
Title: Re: The Awnings Of Youngstown
Post by: john r. swierz on March 14, 2009, 01:38:10 PM


    Jay,
    It would be great if we could get a group of volunteers to  inspect  and take pictures and record addresses where this occurs and turn that info over to Ray DeCarlo, the city's Zoning Inspector.  I know this situation occurs on all sides of our city.
Title: Re: The Awnings Of Youngstown
Post by: jay on March 21, 2009, 06:42:00 AM
Here's one located on South Avenue.
Title: Re: The Awnings Of Youngstown
Post by: john r. swierz on March 21, 2009, 09:45:45 AM

    Jay,
    I know that location, and I will address it,have you emailed this photo to Ray DeCarlo?
Title: Re: The Awnings Of Youngstown
Post by: jay on April 06, 2009, 01:37:55 PM
Some old church buildings also have this problem.
Title: Re: The Awnings Of Youngstown
Post by: john r. swierz on April 06, 2009, 08:29:02 PM


      Is that on Woodland Ave?
Title: Re: The Awnings Of Youngstown
Post by: sfc_oliver on April 06, 2009, 10:18:43 PM
Woodland or Ridge. Just 5 years ago I believe we were putting new gutters on that church.
Title: Re: The Awnings Of Youngstown
Post by: jay on April 07, 2009, 06:25:46 AM
The church building has also been vandalized.  Many of the stained glass windows have disappeared.
Title: Re: The Awnings Of Youngstown
Post by: Towntalk on April 07, 2009, 10:54:27 AM
Ridge. That church is the former Bethel Church of God In Christ. The congregation relocated to Glenwood Avenue.
Title: Re: The Awnings Of Youngstown
Post by: iwasthere on April 07, 2009, 12:13:58 PM
the woodland ave church is now owned by musician, who wants to re habit and turn into a fine performing art centre. he is looking for investors. i was there for several fundraisers to rehab that bldg. the fundraisers starts around 10 pm and ends when the roosters start to announce the beginning of the new day/when the cows come home.
Title: Re: The Awnings Of Youngstown
Post by: Towntalk on April 07, 2009, 01:17:30 PM
Bethel Church of God In Christ Link

http://netministries.org/see/churches.exe/ch02481


The congregations new church on Glenwood Ave.

http://cfweb.cc.ysu.edu/sacredlandmarks/images_500/p3147Glenwood500.jpg


Title: Re: The Awnings Of Youngstown
Post by: rusty river on April 07, 2009, 02:24:50 PM
Jay, you seem to be compiling quite an inventory here.

Idea:

This forum should organize some sort of Assessment of Commercial Exteriors (ACE).
A couple weekends would be spent walking the city's commercial and business districts. A survey would be conducted of every building's exterior appearance, with a grading system of A, C, or F. An "A" grade would be a well maintained and inviting outside appearance. The pictures you posted would probably be examples of businesses deserving an "F". A "C" would be something in the middle: not deplorable, but not pristine. We'd visit a site, take pictures, jot down some notes, and maybe even interview the business owner or manager about the exterior of their building.

All data would be compiled and put into some type of report or presentation. This can then be sent to city officials and the media.

The point would be to place public pressure on "problem" businesses, garner some positive attention for businesses that take care of their property, and work with the city in identifying what needs to be addressed and improved upon.

Sean T. McKinney (Building and Grounds Commissioner) is who we would want to give this information to, as his department is the one that deals with structural code violations.
Ray DeCarlo deals with zoning and property uses only.


Mr. Swierz, since you mentioned something similar, I nominate you for ACE Chief Organizer.  :)
Title: Re: The Awnings Of Youngstown
Post by: Towntalk on April 07, 2009, 02:31:58 PM
Great idea Rusty, heaven knows that there are plenty of buildings that should have a spotlight shined on them such as the convience stores like the one that Jay posted.
Title: Re: The Awnings Of Youngstown
Post by: john r. swierz on April 07, 2009, 03:45:10 PM


     I am honored , but I think I'll pass!
Title: Re: The Awnings Of Youngstown
Post by: Mary_Krupa on April 07, 2009, 05:36:32 PM
The newest one I saw was on Midlothian at Southern Boulevard across from Pleasant Grove Church. Very ugly.
Title: Re: The Awnings Of Youngstown
Post by: jay on May 06, 2009, 09:32:07 PM
Here's one on the east side.
Title: Re: The Awnings Of Youngstown
Post by: john r. swierz on May 07, 2009, 05:02:19 AM

        I would say that this is located on #442
Title: Re: The Awnings Of Youngstown
Post by: jay on May 09, 2009, 06:08:55 AM
This photo is Mary's nominee.
Title: Re: The Awnings Of Youngstown
Post by: john r. swierz on May 09, 2009, 03:22:42 PM


       Midlothian at Cottage Grove. I trust that you are emailing these pictures to Ray DeCarlo , the Zoning Officer!
Title: Re: The Awnings Of Youngstown
Post by: john r. swierz on May 09, 2009, 03:24:43 PM


     Jay , I hope you noticed that JQ's on South at E Judson removed their damaged awning.
Title: Re: The Awnings Of Youngstown
Post by: DefendYoungstown on May 09, 2009, 08:51:04 PM
I agree with Rusty. What is needed is a organized, systematic approach to accumulating inventory data regarding the commercial corridors. This data then needs to be presented on behalf of an organized group (ex. ACE) to Sean. Monthly status meetings with this group need to follow. In a city like Youngstown where there are so many needs and limited personnel and resource, we, as citizens, need to line up the work/create the agenda. It is then incumbent on the city to then meet us half way. Individual complaints stand a much lesser chance to produce desired results. Organization is essential. That is the reality of living in Youngstown.
Title: Re: The Awnings Of Youngstown
Post by: DefendYoungstown on May 09, 2009, 10:29:44 PM
P.S. If you haven't read the book "Why the Garden Club Couldn't Save Youngstown", you really should. In my opinion, every elected, non-profit, or general civic leader who is involved or interested in this community should take Mr. Safford's research to heart. You can order on Amazon here:

http://www.amazon.com/Garden-Club-Couldnt-Save-Youngstown/dp/0674031768

For a cliffnotes review (by orgtheory.net):
http://orgtheory.wordpress.com/2009/05/08/not-your-fathers-network-analysis/
Title: Re: The Awnings Of Youngstown
Post by: iwasthere on May 11, 2009, 01:05:04 PM
it seems that the mayor's adminstrations dept heads want the ytown citizens to do their job that they were appointed to after this mayor was elected as a charity donation towards the city's coffers.
Title: Re: The Awnings Of Youngstown
Post by: john r. swierz on May 11, 2009, 02:43:21 PM

   We are all in this together, if we want a better city there is nothing wrong with the citizens partnering with the government.
Title: Re: The Awnings Of Youngstown
Post by: iwasthere on May 13, 2009, 10:56:14 AM
 i have been to several cleanups in this city and Annie Gilliam and john swierz are the only ones there for these events. where are the other city officials esp council and pres of council that are collecting $28,000 plus benefits, which does not count their day jobs too. my neighborhood is the city not the blvd blockwatch area. there are several concern citizens that are at many numerous events that does not include their ward in which they parttake in that daily endeavor for that such ward. why cannot these inds. that i mentioned do the same thing too.