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Youngstown & The Mahoning Valley => Youngstown in General => Topic started by: BG on March 01, 2016, 01:18:14 PM

Title: Vallourec ..... a $2M subsidy
Post by: BG on March 01, 2016, 01:18:14 PM
The city is seeking $2,000,000 to clean up some property owned by Vallourec.

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Title: Re: Vallourec ..... a $2M subsidy
Post by: iwasthere on March 01, 2016, 04:27:34 PM
let vallourec clean this mess up themselves from the profits they are making from the gas and oil companies through its fracking endeavor .
Title: Re: Vallourec ..... a $2M subsidy
Post by: Rick Rowlands on March 12, 2016, 07:41:06 AM
They are not making any profits right now.  Vallourec didn't make this mess.  This was the former Dempsey Steel property, a plant that was located east of the Erie Railroad mainline.  It had been abandoned for decades, and a deal was made whereas the City would buy the land, clean it up and sell it to Vallourec.  Vallourec benefits from having land for parking and pipe storage and the city benefits from eliminating a long standing eyesore. 

The state has programs just for cleaning up such properties.
Title: Re: Vallourec ..... a $2M subsidy
Post by: iwasthere on March 12, 2016, 11:22:38 PM
Rr aren't you against using any monies from local, state and federal government monies?
Title: Re: Vallourec ..... a $2M subsidy
Post by: Rick Rowlands on March 12, 2016, 11:50:40 PM
Actually, I am generally opposed to Federal govt. spending money on non enumerated areas, but when it comes to states I do not really care as much.  The federal govt. should have a very limited and defined role, with the states having broader powers. Since states have to balance their budgets, it is harder for them to go on a runaway spending binge like the feds can. 

I drove by the property in question today.  This portion that is "contaminated" is just a gravel field with concrete blocks placed on its perimeter to keep Vallourec from storing pipe on that ground.  It certainly does not look menacing.  It has been so called contaminated for decades, and we all are very much still alive.  I have to wonder if we are becoming too overzealous with this idea of environmental contamination and cleanup. 

Title: Re: Vallourec ..... a $2M subsidy
Post by: AllanY2525 on March 13, 2016, 12:07:42 AM

I'm wondering how much "remediation" would actually have to be done if the property is just going
to be paved over (?)
Title: Re: Vallourec ..... a $2M subsidy
Post by: Why?Town on March 13, 2016, 11:17:24 AM
So it's contaminated ground? What difference does it make if it just sits there or something is stored on it?