Come on folks stand up for a change. Cast your vote, yes or no?
While I believe Kitchen is guilty, I have to question the timing of Hughes bringing the allegations. Why did she let it continue for 18 months and then bring this to light after her suspension and just before the election?
I also understand going to Cleveland for an attorney, but three of them? Why so many?
Quote Why did she let it continue for 18 months
I hope she took this time to record audio, save messages, or line up a few witnesses.
If she did, she will have the proof she needs.
Studies show that a victim of sexual harassment often is afraid to come forward. The timing is irrelevant. I understand that there are text messages that the attorneys of the victim have in possession. If that is the case that may be a slam dunk. Bottom line it is confirmed that the meeting took place and Samarone tried to cover it up. Where is the accountability? Neither kitchen or sammarone are fit to serve in any public office. The meeting in and of itself dictates this
I just exited a meeting. Although the lawyers and I were there for land issues, the meeting changed gears to Mr. Kitchen. What was disclosed is apparently what is soon to come out , some very lewd and nasty stuff alleged. Also the Mayor appears to have hired Mr. Kitchen after the knowledge of allegations and proof. Now this is what my associates seem to know and have been in the context of conversation.
Geez, is there a Mayoral candidate in this election that DOESN'T have personal "issues". ?!?!?
This is why I like the concept of voting "none of the above."
If "none of the above" receives the most votes, a new slate of candidates would have to be presented.
Youngstown likely to pick investigator today in harassment allegation
http://www.vindy.com/news/2013/oct/04/city-likely-to-select-investigator-today/ (http://www.vindy.com/news/2013/oct/04/city-likely-to-select-investigator-today/)
Youngstown picks retired Summit County detective to investigate harassment complaint
http://www.vindy.com/news/2013/oct/05/investigator-selected-for-kitchen-case/ (http://www.vindy.com/news/2013/oct/05/investigator-selected-for-kitchen-case/)
Finally a lawsuit by professional and high powered attorneys are descending upon the politically corrupt City of Youngstown, "Defund Youngstown!"
After all these years here on MVI decrying the clueless City hall and their unqualified leaders, this may be the straw that breaks the City's back. We all cry and know the City has always been bad news and is obsolete. However, no single person and group could muster an overthrow. Look back at the archives and see the abuse of power that these low information leaders oppressed the citizenry with.
If Hughes is telling the truth, this is just the crack of Pandora's box and the first Dominoes to fall. All of us who felt the oppression must fan this flame.
Judging from the mindset of most Youngstowners, this will make little if any difference. Corruption runs so deep in this city that it will take more than this to bring this city to its knees like a major federal probe conducted by the Department of Justice where the locals can not buy their way out of it, and face long prison sentences.
We can sit here and voice our opinions till the cows come home, and it will not make any difference, because 90% of the people here are too apathetic to stand up and demand change, and what leadership we have is so closely involved in the corruption to use their positions to bring about the sort of change that is demanded.
Do you hear a single word from our female council persons voicing any degree of outrage over this matter? No,because they are Kitchen supporters and are willing to throw anyone under the bus who does anything to him, especially if they are white.
Shrimp, who mentioned anything about an "overthrow". Geez you always go there. Always so dramatic. This about a woman that has been victimized. A wannabe mayor who has no respect for women. And a blowhard bully that thinks he wrote the book on management trying to cover it up. What was Samarone thinking? Even the most junior manager would know to go right to HR with this. And never I mean never hold a closed door meeting with 3 men one if which is the accused and the victim. Samarone is just as much at fault. Don't start diggin in chucks closet there will be an avalanche of skeletons fallin out. Lol
At least Sammarone has two opponents in the President of Council race for the November election. There is a chance that some members of the democratic machine may finally turn against him and he will be ousted from public office.
Stewie,
I agree, I am dramatic.
McNally speaks on opponent's scandal at Democrat picnic
http://www.wkbn.com/2013/10/05/mcnally-speaks-on-opponents-scandal-at-democrat-picnic/ (http://www.wkbn.com/2013/10/05/mcnally-speaks-on-opponents-scandal-at-democrat-picnic/)
Now we know the answer to your question.
What does that say about the person who didn't handle the problem properly in the first place? :-X
What is behind this recent offence against the City is bigger than the actors will understand. In my opinion, this is now an onslaught by Big Energy to reorganize a badly need mentally defunct City of Youngstown which is the largest urban center sitting smack on top of the Utica shale. Unlike Pittsburgh (dry gas) which was allowed to ban fracking, Youngstown(wet gas) was not allowed to go south by the Global Giants with their billions invested here.
As I foretold, the production types are now arriving and this recent problem with the City will be supportred all the way to the reorganization of Youngstown. Notice how McNally is the first highly educated Mayor in decades.
Which are you referring to ... the (former) Mayor, the Law Director, City Council including the 4th Ward Councilman?
Kitchen is guilty. Even if it is playful on both sides at the beginning, when one person says stop, you need to stop.
McNally did not have the overwhelming support of his party's membership in the May primary election. McNally only received 142 more votes than Tito Brown.
Bottom line ... he won, and will be the next Mayor, and besides, just think about all the good that he can do for theWest Side since that's his stomping grounds.
Don't forget about Jay Williams, for better or worse the man at least had a college
education.
Quote from: AllanY2525 on December 10, 2013, 01:19:49 AM
Don't forget about Jay Williams, for better or worse the man at least had a college
education.
jm has more of impressive resume than any other ytown 's mayor aka jw.
jeannie shaffer wanted to press charges ag dk last yr ard this time. she was afraid she would lose her job and her husband would had maimed dk. what we know now abt the lh/dk case which we found out that cs scuffed at this incident as boys will be boys thus causing a hostile work environment in ytown city hall. i cannot understand why women in ytown looked the other way in this matter. the media and women in other towns would had demanded dk and cs to drop out of their political races until thier names were cleared in which the ytown city's investigation did not clear up or clean up their names. >:(
I know Jeannie from way back, upstanding person......I believe her if she indeed made the allegations.
I will confess In have not been following this one very closely, but has the investigator's
findings regarding the alleged text messages been made public yet?
the investigator findings supported lh claims ag dk as true.