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Youngstown & The Mahoning Valley => Youngstown in General => Topic started by: jay on August 17, 2013, 08:55:38 PM

Title: Should Prison Inmates Be Counted As Ward Residents?
Post by: jay on August 17, 2013, 08:55:38 PM
The east side of Youngstown has several prisons.

Should a prison's inmate population be counted in the ward population when it comes to determining the ward boundaries for redistricting plans?
Title: Re: Should Prison Inmates Be Counted As Ward Residents?
Post by: Rick Rowlands on August 18, 2013, 12:01:16 AM
NO!
Title: Re: Should Prison Inmates Be Counted As Ward Residents?
Post by: jay on August 18, 2013, 05:26:58 AM
This is another issue that Youngstown City Council probably won't address.  The City Charter should be amended to exclude prison inmates from a ward's population number.
Title: Re: Should Prison Inmates Be Counted As Ward Residents?
Post by: iwasthere on August 18, 2013, 12:44:42 PM
Quote from: jay on August 17, 2013, 08:55:38 PM
The east side of Youngstown has several prisons.

Should a prison's inmate population be counted in the ward population when it comes to determining the ward boundaries for redistricting plans?
i had a good laugh when annie gilliam said, "these people are in my ward and should be counted". these people or prisoners do not rent or owned property nor pay property taxes in her ward. when was the last time annie met with these people? at their monthly cell block blockwatch?
Title: Re: Should Prison Inmates Be Counted As Ward Residents?
Post by: jay on August 18, 2013, 02:36:04 PM
Prison inmates are the perfect citizens in her ward. 
They don't complain.
They can't call her.
They won't show up at block watch or council meetings.
They can't vote.
Title: Re: Should Prison Inmates Be Counted As Ward Residents?
Post by: iwasthere on August 19, 2013, 06:48:16 AM
a drm that all ytown city reps to have during their tenure in office.
Title: Re: Should Prison Inmates Be Counted As Ward Residents?
Post by: jay on March 31, 2014, 05:46:40 AM
A group of citizens in Youngstown are investigating language for a charter amendment that would exclude prisoners from being counted in a ward's population figures.
Title: Re: Should Prison Inmates Be Counted As Ward Residents?
Post by: AllanY2525 on April 02, 2014, 04:58:16 AM
Quote from: jay on August 18, 2013, 02:36:04 PM
Prison inmates are the perfect citizens in her ward. 
They don't complain.
They can't call her.
They won't show up at block watch or council meetings.
They can't vote.

Jay - you forgot one:

Prisoners cannot and will not do anything for her.  The inverse is also probably true - I don't think
she has any plans to do anything for them either, since they are disenfranchised until released
from prison.

Laughing my A## off....

:-)
Title: Re: Should Prison Inmates Be Counted As Ward Residents?
Post by: jay on April 02, 2014, 05:18:19 AM
The problem right now is how to write the proper charter language.
Title: Re: Should Prison Inmates Be Counted As Ward Residents?
Post by: Rick Rowlands on April 02, 2014, 09:44:35 AM
the only thing they do for her is pump up her residency numbers!
Title: Re: Should Prison Inmates Be Counted As Ward Residents?
Post by: jay on April 02, 2014, 09:36:32 PM
This video is about a council race in Anamosa, IA.  It is an example of the worse case of gerrymandering in a U.S. city council race.

The video is 2.5 minutes long.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzh32Zp_PYk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzh32Zp_PYk)
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