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Title: New Downtown Beer Garden
Post by: Towntalk on May 15, 2013, 09:03:53 AM
Another joint for boozing it up is opening downtown.


http://www.vindy.com/news/2013/may/15/new-bar-to-be-like-a-street-festival/ (http://www.vindy.com/news/2013/may/15/new-bar-to-be-like-a-street-festival/)

Title: Re: New Downtown Beer Garden
Post by: northside lurker on May 15, 2013, 10:03:26 AM
I don't care that it's a bar, we don't have a lot of those downtown. (although just about all of the restaurants also serve alcohol...) I'm not too thrilled with the description of "garage doors" in the façade of the Stambaugh Building though.  It could be OK, if they are very high-end glass and aluminum garage doors, but the Vindy article doesn't make that clear.

I know someone on the design review committee, and he doesn't remember reviewing this project.  So I wonder if they went through the approval process, or if he just missed the meeting where it was approved?
Title: Re: New Downtown Beer Garden
Post by: Rick Rowlands on May 15, 2013, 10:39:44 AM
I'm not too excited with the garage door concept either, and I am not so sure that it would work well on a westward facing facade.  the prevailing wind comes from the west so it would always be blowing stuff around inside the bar.  This idea might work better on the other side of central square as the building shields a lot of the wind. 
Title: Re: New Downtown Beer Garden
Post by: Towntalk on May 23, 2013, 01:07:53 AM
UPDATE ON DOORS CONTROVERSY......


http://www.vindy.com/news/2013/may/23/youngstown-design-review-panel-oks-door-/ (http://www.vindy.com/news/2013/may/23/youngstown-design-review-panel-oks-door-/)


Title: Re: New Downtown Beer Garden
Post by: Rick Rowlands on May 23, 2013, 08:26:58 AM
Case of shoddy reporting causing unwarranted concern.
Title: Re: New Downtown Beer Garden
Post by: Billy Mumphrey on May 23, 2013, 08:57:43 AM
I see they will keep the shoddy awning....get rid of that ugly thing would be a step in the right direction.
Title: Re: New Downtown Beer Garden
Post by: Rick Rowlands on May 23, 2013, 09:03:23 AM
That would require additional approvals from Design Review and the OHPO and of course more money.
Title: Re: New Downtown Beer Garden
Post by: northside lurker on May 23, 2013, 09:58:20 AM
Quote from: Rick Rowlands on May 23, 2013, 09:03:23 AM
That would require additional approvals from Design Review and the OHPO and of course more money.

You're certainly right about costing more money, but it wouldn't require more reviews, if its redesign was included with the submission they are already making.