Date is Saturday, March 23 from 7-10pm at the UU Church across from Wick Park.
Attention to those who love trees and want to see the continued reforestation of Youngstown. This is our "funraiser" and it is a celebration of trees and great fun, great food and great friends... And a blind chocolate taste test. Music, Silent and Chinese Auctions and of course our 3rd observance of "Earth Hour" with candlelight and poetry...
Don't forget--tickets in advance are only $20. Pretty good for two glasses of wine, The Guilty Pleasures, finger foods, 10 kinds of organic/fair trade chocolate, and all those kindred spirits! And candlelight and poetry at 8:30 to celebrate Earth Hour.
Why does Youngstown need to be reforested, do native trees not replenish themselves and need to be replanted, or do they replenish naturally?
Before you answer, please educate yourselves.
My friends, thake a walk some bright and sunny day through Mill Creek Park with wide open minds, hearts and eyes, and look around at the wonders of nature at work without the aid of mortal hands. You will see that trees drop seeds that sprout up and in God's good time become mature trees offering haven and home to our woodland creatures.
In fact, to insure healthy trees, it becomes necessary to thin out the saplings so that others might grow healthy and strong.
As I gaze out my window, there is a tree that the utility companies have butchered, yet as I look down at the base of that tree, there are a number of saplings growing, and in good time that parient tree will have to give way so that one of those saplings might become a mature tree.
I personally have no objections to any group planting new trees provided the trees are suited to our region, and they take proper care of them until they have become established, but all too often these same well meaning folks plant trees then leave them to their own to grow, and that is not the way to do it.
These newly planted trees need proper care ... at least on a weekly bases until they are established or they die, and time, energy and money has been wasted.
Being new to the area, from what I have learned about this organization, Treez Please has been organized to plant trees and increase greenspace in the city of Youngstown, Ohio. Members and volunteers work with neighborhood groups, community groups and WEAN Neighborhood Success Grant recipients to beautify the city through the process of consulting, educating, buying, planting and caring for trees. Why would some people have a problem with a group trying to beautify the city? Hats off to this organization!
http://www.wytv.com/content/news/local/story/Tree-Planting-Project-Beautifies-Playground/hu3BpBWuh0WhdWkDjUnsUQ.cspx (http://www.wytv.com/content/news/local/story/Tree-Planting-Project-Beautifies-Playground/hu3BpBWuh0WhdWkDjUnsUQ.cspx)
Billy, no one objects to the goals of this organization, it's just that my concern is how it cares for the trees once they are planted. You just don't plant a tree then walk away from it and not care for it until it's established.
In nature, trees drop seeds, the seeds grow into saplings and the fittest grow into trees. That's natures way. This organization takes saplings and plants them, but after that the saplings need to be cared for ... watered fertalized and mulched on a regular basis for the first year or so. Do the volunteers have the expertese to properly plant the trees? Are they planted at the proper depth? Have the roots been properly tended to when planting? They need to be loosened so they can spread out properly. It's not enough to simply dig a hole, put the root bulb in, and cover it.
Good intentions often go arye and the tree fails to become established, hence nothing is gained.
When a homeowner has trees planted on their property they are given instructions on how to care for it. They've invested money for that tree, but when this organization plants trees, there is no responsability on neighbors to invest time and money to care for it through the first years, and that tree is at the mercy of all sorts of problems.
QuoteDo the volunteers have the expertese to properly plant the trees?
Yes.
Great, but that answered do they take the responsability of caring for them over the first year after planting?
http://ohiodnr.com/tabid/5113/Default.aspx (http://ohiodnr.com/tabid/5113/Default.aspx)
Yes, I believe they do. I'm no longer a member, but I remember getting facebook invitations for doing this sort of maintenance at some of the trees they planted around Wick Park.
Thanks westsider. As I said, my only concern was as posted, and so long as it's done right, that's all that matters.
Questions:
1. Is treez please anti logging?
2. Is treez please parlaying public money into salaries?
3. What professionals in science to they have in leadership?
Ron, I doubt that they are classical "chain me to the tree" tree huggers. As to your other questions, a quick glance at their web site tells little about the leadership. They say the pay volunteers in time bank play money.
Speaking about groups like this though, Grow Youngstown's Fairgreen gardens are right behind me, and their lots are a total mess with covers laying around willy nilly along with other trash. They seem to have made no effort to clean up after themselves.
TT,
You must have mental telepathy going. I was in a meeting today and rec'd a call about donating a lot on Ohio avenue we have to Grow Youngstown. Yesterday Jack Kravitz who is on their board asked me to donate the lot. Grow Youngstown had the landbank try to foreclose on this same lot for a tax delinquency of $11.57, spending $2000 in legal fees to the county prosecutor of taxpayer money. After the foreclosure was halted by me paying the $11.57, Grow Youngstown had the nerve to call me asking for me to sell them the lot, I said NO.
This is why I am very critical of nonprofits run by the unqualified, they should leave it to the people who know. Since you have a first hand knowledge of Grow Youngstown's property, and you say it is unkept, maybe I can help your block. I'll donate the lot that they need for their new green house if you get satisfaction in what you call a mess. Can I bring your complaint into the negotiation?
You bet you can. Anyone else and the city would have come down on them. Back in the 1960's I spent 2 years working at a church farm in Atwater, and we would never leave our fields 1000 acres of them in a mess. There were students from Kent State and Walsh College staying with us who had farm backgrounds and after the growing season the fields were cleaned up and plowed over so that in the next growing season we'd have a clean slate to work with.
In addition I see the Grow Youngstown gardens on Fairgreen are partially on a parcel titled under Treez Please, are they comingling?
And now in my research I find Treez Please is led by no other than Biersdorfer the YSU geologist who is trying to ban drilling in Youngstown! No way now am I going to donate that lot on Ohio to these propagandist, it's war time!
I find it very sad that a simple post regarding a fundraiser has turned into an all-out attack on a non-profit group. Now I'm afraid to post any type of community fundraiser. Will there be attacks on other ethnic groups or churches in the future? What type of community service forum is this site?
Billy, don't be afraid to post fund raising events here, this one just hit some sore spots. We thrive in special events as you can see by many of Jay's posts.
Wake up to the real world. Nothing here has been ethnic nor religious, so throw those ones out.
What has been successfully accomplished here is full disclosure and exposure. What was initially a fundraiser here resulted in a study of a few nonprofits and facts have been uncovered. Now it seems like some here wish to disquise a little fundraising of feel good community service from a leadership designed to hijack this service and promote an agenda that harm the poorest of landowners in Mahoning county. Biersdorfer and her ilk are bent on this manuever to outright ban drilling in the City of Youngstown and since she leads Treez Please and comingles land with Grow Youngstown, they are the enemy of all small landowners in Youngstown who wish to partake in selling their minerals to keep America supplied with energy.
This post to solicit funds for Treez Please has culminated into a decision here to withdraw probably the current vital donation of land to Grow Youngstown. The power of this site has resulted in this feedback and I thank everyone here for helping me make this decision. If you own a parcel or acreage of land in the City and one day you or your heirs wish to see royalties from the Utica shale, this decision may count. You may thank me one day for standing up to this oppression by Biersdorfer and her ilk, or.........you being in Youngstown will not be able to realize any needed revenue just because you own land in Youngstown while your neighbors in the suburbs will have passive income for decades.
So what may seem like a good gesture of planting a tree in Youngstown may really be about using a sapling to plug an oil well in Youngstown forever.
ytown shrimp there is no hidden agenda but a grp mission is to replace died trees with new live ones. i am sure their are tp members that have strong opinions about fracking and others not. there is no government monies to support this grp's mission.
Biersdorfer must resign from Treez Please if Grow Youngstown wants that Ohio parcel from me. She is the enemy of the poor landowners of Youngstown.
what makes you think that treez please bm would be armed wrestled to throw an effective bm to the wolves for a piece of land for gy?
Then treez please can continue to be led by an enemy of all property owners in Youngstown who wish to sell their minerals to the energy companies that are investing billions into eastern Ohio.
Iwasthere, no arm twisting here, it is they who want the land, I'll just allow the energy companiesto frack it when they get closer.
ytownshrimp like i said before frack your land until your hrt contends but i want you to be respectful to your nieghbors's unfrac properties next to yours. i want all frac properties be prepared to pay for any environmental damages to unfrac lands next to their frac properties that is caused by their gas and oil wells mishaps through this fracking process. is this a fair request to pro frackers from unfrac properties next to frack properties?
How do I say this without insulting Iwasthere. You need to get educated on acreage unit sizes of drilling pads. You need to get educated on set back requirements of a unit and a drilling pad. The ODNR has plenty of reading information about requirements for energy companies to horizontally drill in Ohio.
Iwasthere, you approach fracking like a kid who tried to bullshit his way through not doing his homework.
ytownshrimp i gave you my blessings to frac your lands. if you have enough acreage for gas and oil exploration, go for it. first do no harm to the environment. why would you want insult me when i gave you my blessings for your fracking adventure in mah cty.
Iwasthere, thank you for your blessing and I pardoned myself in the previous post not to insult you.
your penitence is 40 lashes with a wet noodle.