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Title: Save Pig Iron Press
Post by: jay on January 08, 2013, 10:51:23 AM
FYI

An effort to save a downtown institution
Title: Re: Save Pig Iron Press
Post by: Towntalk on January 08, 2013, 11:15:00 AM
Question:

When was the last time that Pig Iron Press actually "published" a book? It is suppose to be a publishing house, or at least that was what it use to be. It seems that today all that it is, is a social club for poets, not that that is bad, and a copy center trying to compete with larger copy centers.

They do a good job at binding manuscripts, because they bound my ten volume manuscript on the story of Youngstown's first 100 years at a very reasonable price considering that each volume contained about 500 pages each.
Title: Re: Save Pig Iron Press
Post by: iwasthere on January 08, 2013, 12:13:24 PM
pip published a book this past Summer. i cannot recall the book's name or author. i witnessed jv bind  every book in this order personally, painstaking and time consuming in my opinion.
Title: Re: Save Pig Iron Press
Post by: Towntalk on January 08, 2013, 12:53:27 PM
Thanks iwt for the update. Jim is very skilled at binding ... I know, because it wasn't easy to bind my manuscript. It's too bad that he couldn't have published it, but I ran into a roadblock on Vol. 1 due to lack of funds to pay for rights to use the material that was in that volume. The other nine volumes were good to go, but without the first volume, the rest wouldn't have made sense.

I started work on the book way back in the early 1990's using a Commodore 64 and finally finished it using a real computer ... a Packard Bell, and several other PC's. Indexed the book and everything. It's a shame that no one will be able to read it because it really give a good insight into the early history of the city and some of its characters over a 100 year time span.

I don't plan to get rid of it, but if I were I'd ask no less that $300.00 for the ten volumes, and a bargain at that.
Title: Re: Save Pig Iron Press
Post by: sfc_oliver on January 08, 2013, 01:18:07 PM
I read a book that Pig iron published...

Ragman Ragman if i remember right...........
Title: Re: Save Pig Iron Press
Post by: iwasthere on January 08, 2013, 09:54:39 PM
Quote from: sfc_oliver on January 08, 2013, 01:18:07 PM
I read a book that Pig iron published...

Ragman Ragman if i remember right...........
you are correct written by micheal lacivita. he writes from time to time for the vindy.
Title: Re: Save Pig Iron Press
Post by: Youngstownshrimp on January 08, 2013, 10:14:28 PM
Whoa!   I thought the building had a buyer?
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Title: Re: Save Pig Iron Press
Post by: Towntalk on January 08, 2013, 10:57:44 PM
Yes, what's the deal, as I understand it someone bought the building and was gonna have a eatery on the first floor and would rent an upper floor to J.V.
Title: Re: Save Pig Iron Press
Post by: iwasthere on January 09, 2013, 12:47:17 AM
Quote from: Towntalk on January 08, 2013, 10:57:44 PM
Yes, what's the deal, as I understand it someone bought the building and was gonna have a eatery on the first floor and would rent an upper floor to J.V.
it is up for sale. a salem, oh coffee shop was interested in leasing but the cs stepped back from the deal until pip's financial legal problems are solved.
Title: Re: Save Pig Iron Press
Post by: Youngstownshrimp on January 09, 2013, 09:38:44 PM
Is anyone here a part of Jim's effort to save the PIP?
If so... private message me, Jim and I were working together for awhile.
Title: Re: Save Pig Iron Press
Post by: Youngstownshrimp on January 09, 2013, 10:39:29 PM
Dennis,
Your old block was on my PM so you need to remove it.  I sent my reply to your PM to TT , asking him to kindly forward to you.
Title: Re: Save Pig Iron Press
Post by: Towntalk on January 09, 2013, 11:10:41 PM
Message from: Miss Towntalk

Message forwarded. Happy to do it.

Have a splendedly great day, my friend.  :)
Title: Re: Save Pig Iron Press
Post by: Youngstownshrimp on January 10, 2013, 08:10:31 AM
TT,
My sincere appologies, through your writings I assumed wrong, it is because of your command in all subjects including construction.  ;)
Title: Re: Save Pig Iron Press
Post by: Towntalk on January 10, 2013, 08:24:37 AM
 :) No soap operas for me my friend ... one of my favorite channels is the Velocity Channel ... watch This Old House religiously ... the worthwhile stuff, not the fluff stuff, so that's where I get my education on so many different subjects and some of it manages to stick in this 73 year old head.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Save Pig Iron Press
Post by: Rick Rowlands on January 10, 2013, 09:06:42 PM
TT I would buy a copy in a heartbeat!  Which 100 years does it cover?
Title: Re: Save Pig Iron Press
Post by: Towntalk on January 10, 2013, 09:30:29 PM
The Youngstown Story -- The First 100 years

Vol. 1 is the main volume with stories covering that period, many of which can not be found in other histories. Volumes 2 thru the end consist of a library of literature that would be found in any working class home of the period plus material concerning Youngstown's involvement in the Civil War complete with rosters.

This is a working manuscript and that means that in volume 1 there are hand written editing notes.

The remainder of the work consists of material gleaned from the Library of Congress and the Ohio Historical Society, so I stress that I'm just the editor of the work, and have little original material.
Title: Re: Save Pig Iron Press
Post by: Towntalk on January 10, 2013, 09:37:07 PM
In researching for the book I accumulated enough material to fill a 4 drawer filing cabnet but that material is so fragmented that it has little value except to me.
Title: Re: Save Pig Iron Press
Post by: Youngstownshrimp on January 10, 2013, 09:41:10 PM
TT,
Dennis or I have not figured out how to remove a block so now you get another message for Dennis, "Por Favor."
Title: Re: Save Pig Iron Press
Post by: Towntalk on January 10, 2013, 09:51:15 PM
Message sent to Dennis.
Title: Re: Save Pig Iron Press
Post by: Rick Rowlands on January 10, 2013, 11:22:19 PM
My office is jam packed full of Youngstown steel related history.  Copied articles, books, 45 drawers of blueprints, files and papers stacked everywhere.  Ask any question about Youngstown's steel industry and if I can't find it in this room I know where I can find it!

I just rearranged my YS&T files into eighty hanging folders, one for each year of the company's existence.  Now I keep records on the company chronologically and that will help with my understanding of their history.  I have a goal of writing the definitive history of YS&T someday, but I still have much research to do and a museum to complete before I feel ready to tackle it in a big way.  It is something that needs to be done.
Title: Re: Save Pig Iron Press
Post by: Towntalk on January 10, 2013, 11:46:11 PM
I agree as to the time it takes to tackle a complex project like that. I know that I spent many all night work sifting through material until I went back to night turn at work, and since Vol. 1 had to be typed into the computer I had to budget my time since I was also doing radio talk show prep newsletters to Dan Ryan which I had to fax to him before I went to bed, since he was at the station by 6:00 am and needed the newsletters early enough to go over them before he went on the air. All this and my day job.

The newsletters averaged 13 to 14 pages not counting the cover page published 7 days a week. I was really thankful that WKBN management approved since Dan actually used them because I could never have afforded the mailing costs not to mention the time element.

After Dan passed away, and Dan Rivers took over the show, I sent the newsletters to him until my health didn't allow me to spend the long hours pouring over newspapers and wire services any longer.

With the wealth of information you have at your disposal, I don't envy you the task of putting it into a book, but it's a story that needs to be told, because the further away we move from the steel mill days, the fewer there will be who remember that part of our history.
Title: Re: Save Pig Iron Press
Post by: jay on February 01, 2013, 02:04:43 PM
This is the poster for the
Save Pig Iron Press event.
Title: Re: Save Pig Iron Press
Post by: jay on February 03, 2013, 06:24:46 AM
If things don't work out for the Pig Iron Press downtown, I know of a nice building on Mahoning Avenue on the west side that would be a good location to set up shop.
Title: Re: Save Pig Iron Press
Post by: irishbobcat on February 03, 2013, 08:54:35 AM
After finally touring the top floor and basement, I was really surprised at the huge amount of space in the Pig Iron Press building....

Does the service elevator in the back still work?
Title: Re: Save Pig Iron Press
Post by: jay on February 03, 2013, 08:59:20 AM
QuoteDoes the service elevator in the back still work?

It was working as of a few years ago.
Title: Re: Save Pig Iron Press
Post by: Towntalk on February 03, 2013, 09:03:54 AM
Jay, are you talking about the former drug store on Mahoning Avenue and S. Hazelwood? When I was going to High School it was known as Chaney Drugs and I have some very fond memories of it. You're right that it would be an ideal spot for Pig Iron Press. The question is, is it large enough. If Jim cleaned house at the present building, and just concentrated on his core business, it might be perfect,
Title: Re: Save Pig Iron Press
Post by: irishbobcat on February 03, 2013, 09:25:33 AM
Jim does have a lot of stuff stored in the basement and attic of his building......tons of empty beer cans, wine bottles, and other items collected over the year....
If he does have to move, I was wondering exactly how long would it take him to move that stuff out.....
Title: Re: Save Pig Iron Press
Post by: Towntalk on February 03, 2013, 09:43:24 AM
He could call the folks at Antiques Archeology to come in and buy a lot of the stuff he's accumulated ... they pay cash for the stuff they buy.



http://antiquearchaeology.com/antique_archaeology_leclaire_ia.html (http://antiquearchaeology.com/antique_archaeology_leclaire_ia.html)