In the 10/12/1919 Vindicator the Mill Creek Land Company ran a full page ad for Roger's Park. This development was near Youngstown Canfield Road with Glenwood Avenue being one of the main streets.
The ad said that this was to be an exclusive development with "Ridged Ownership and Building Restritions."
The ad also said:
"Everyone may feast their eyes and heart's full upon the wholesome goodness of Roger's Park – but only a limited number will qualify as residents in this glorious homesite, justly termed the "The Playground of the Gods."
What is that area like today?
Link to the ad:
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=mypKAAAAIBAJ&sjid=-YUMAAAAIBAJ&pg=4821%2C4896517
And another cool ad from the same date.
Garden Heights
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=mypKAAAAIBAJ&sjid=-YUMAAAAIBAJ&pg=1888%2C4887904
Today that area is the far east side of the Youngstown 2010 neighborhood designated "29" and the 2010 neighborhood designated "Indian Village." As far as I know, those areas are still pretty stable.
I find it interesting that both adds mention "ownership restrictions" "properly restricted" and "sold to desirable people."
I also find the "on the sunny side of the smoke" interesting, but less offensive. :)
Rogers Road runs north from Canfield Road. It is the first road east of Mill Creek Park. I'm pretty sure it dead ends into the parking lot that was next to the former Idora Park Ballroom.
Aside from Youngstown Canfield Road and Glenwood Avenue none of the other streets have names. The question then boils down to the name of the lake. Is it Lake Newport or Lake Cohassett?
Remembering that the ad was published in 1910 and there was expansions since then until the present city limits.
I'm fairly certain that's Lake Newport. I can't see the ad on my work computer ::) but, IIRC, the sketch was looking NW. So, I'm fairly certain the eastern most streets in the development were: Kiwatha, Neosho, Onista, and Anoka. The western part of the development would have been redesigned, because Glenmere Dr. is where the backs of properties would have met in the original sketch.
It must have been Lake Newport because I found another ad for a new development near Lake Cohasset.
In the May 4, 1919 Vindicator is a full page ad for the "Old Orchard Plat in the heart of the beautiful Cohasset district" This plat covered Winona Drive; Volney Road; Pinewood Ave.; and Cohasset Blvd. From Glenwood Avenue down to Lake Cohasset.
The streets to the east of this new development were: Earl Ave.; St. Lewis Ave.; Dewey Ave.; and LaClede Ave. east of Glenwood.
Because of size restrictions here I'll not post the map that went with the ad since it would be unreadable.
Since these areas are west of Glenwood, are they considered West Side or South Side? ???
The Rogers Park development would be, according to the city's neighborhood maps, both on the south and west side. The city uses Mill Creek Park as a dividing line, and the Rogers Park development was on both sides of the park.
I think the Garden Heights development might have been in Struthers. In this ad: http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=mSpKAAAAIBAJ&sjid=-YUMAAAAIBAJ&pg=5110,4554256&dq=garden-heights+poland&hl=en they direct the reader to "take the Poland Ave. car to Elm Blvd. one block east," I'm not too familiar with streets in the area. Are there (or were there) any other Poland and Elm intersections?
I would really like to know where this "Garden District" real estate was located and how it looks today. ??? Elm Blvd is hard to place - probably doesn't exist today :o I would venture to guess that these lots - it appears the real estate agent was selling lots and not houses - would be in the present Loveland, Leah Avenue and Powers Way area - all running off Poland Avenue - and the other streets would be Belden and Windsor Avenue. It would be a short walk to both Republic Steel Entrance on Center Street Bridge and The Sheet and Tube Entrance on Poland Avenue at Walton (the old Sheet and Tube Offices). Jackson School is very close - two to three blocks - from the area - it was razed about two or three years ago. There may have been another school in the area at the time since they do mention two schools. The other school could have meet the same demise as Jacksonbut only much earlier ::). As a side note: On a clean up of Buckeye Park in the "woods" area I came across some concrete and steel (?) foundations - I asked John R. Swierz (of all people) who was with me - what was there - he said it was an old water tower :o I wonder if the water came from Hamilton Lake ? ??? I bet they sold less lots than they thought and even less houses were built - good plan but a lost venture :-\ That particular area is near the Powers Cemetery and use to be know as Powerstown and the historic name is becoming reclaimed by the present Block Watch - Powerstown Block Watch. So what do you think about my guess ? ? ? ???
OH - I was just told that the other school would have been the Buckeye Platt School on Mt. Vernon right near Walton It is still there and is owned by a church. This is where the Buckeye Eyes and Ears Block Watch meets. I rest my case :laugh:
:) My hero. :)
Thanks Kennyjoe330.
Now if Allan will sift thru his huge map collection he can post a map of that area here for our edification.
Try looking here:
http://allthingsyoungstown.net/maps/1928_sanborn_maps/index.htm
use CTRL/F keys to bring up your browsers search function and use it to locate the street names in the master index page.. then click the view button to
view the individual map pages
THANKS Allan - I LOVED :-* THE MAPS ! ! ! 8) I have already spent over an hour or so trying to find my neighborhood :laugh: I'll be on those sites for a while.
Thanks so much :-*
Thank you too Towntalk for the complement and for prompting Allan :-*
Kennyjoe330
Here are some more resources for you. They are the Vindicator from its first issue up to the 2009.
The papers that Google has for on-line reading
Mahoning Vindicator - - 1869 to 1875
Mahoning Valley Vindicator - - 1875 to 1877
Youngstown Evening Vindicator - - 1891 to 1893
Youngstown Vindicator - - 1893 to 1984
The Vindicator - - 1984 to 2009
Sunday Vindicator - - 1896 to 1928
Enjoy
Youngstown Vindicator
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=pqgf-8x9CmQC&dat=19260321&b_mode=2
Youngstown Evening Vindicator
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=MdMr--dQ_pMC
Mahoning Valley Vindicator
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=sxPTjD2EoucC
Mahoning Vindicator
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=ib87rSy7x5MC
The Vindicator
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=jtusTj6o6osC&dat=20000101&b_mode=2
The Sunday Vindicator
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=kFzFP8IdBVAC&dat=18960614&b_mode=2
The "floating magnifier glass" function in my map pages is a little quirky (I didn't write the JavaScript code
I got it off the internet) but it serves its function well enough.
You can right-click on any of the maps and do a "Save Image As..." to download it to your PC.
FYI
:)
Wow, I didn't know you could DL those images! They will be a lot easier for me to navigate on the image viewing programs I'm used to.
GOOOLLLLY GEEEE Towntalk I don't know whether to laugh :laugh: or cry :'(. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH for the SIGHTS :o I have been trying to get 7 to 8 hours of sleep per night because "they" say it is good - I've been "trying" now for a few months and now I will have to re-readjust my time management ;D and self control ::) too. Well "they" also say you can get plenty of sleep when you're gone :-X :laugh:
I should get 8 hours of sleep but after finding these sites plus a couple of sites that offer free music and old time radio to download, I'm luckey to get 5 hours of quality sleep.