We know that the brain drain in YTown has not drawn much from this Forum. We also know that this Forum is the only site left that has any action whatsoever when it comes to discussion on the Mahoning Valley. Therefore this site has been chosen as the first public disclosure of a study to convert the concrete YS&T housing into aquaculture tanks for cold species such as Coho Salmon and other species. Attached are preliminary dwg.s and rendering of the structures converted with recirculating systems. Presently, full architectural drawings are being studied by an R&D aquaculture scientist in Seattle. Our intention here is to engage in discussion and feedback from the community, the leadership of Campbell has already been approached. If any forum members has serious input or are supportive of this idea please sound off.
These historic homes deserve to be preserved, however they will never be as residential, their time has come and gone as with the immigrants whom they were built for. As with Youngstown, these structures have seen population decrease as well as deterioration, only 20% now are occupied. Fortunately as with the depopulation, the gangs have vacated also and these one-of-a-kind structures stand ghostly. Converting them into aquaculture facilities will not affect the exterior and the structures can be made to appear as they once have. Urban aquaculture is the wave of the future, many communities are studying it and some are performing, just imagine if converted, what it can do for our Valley.
I thought you gave up on that project.
Last summer it looked like the idea was getting no traction, but now an investor came in and purchased several units including the one in this picture, which negated demolition. In Seattle, the R&D Scientist has a new recirculating design and Ohio Aquaculture Assn. grouped up with the Israelis with their design coming out in the next year. Not to mention that urban aquaculture as I demonstrated is very hot in the mindset of leadership in Ohio as well as the rest of the Country. Ohio is being positioned to be at the forefront of aquaculture because of its abundant water, just think of the jobs it is going to create.
We are rolling! The community of stakeholders have decided to get the community involved by throwing a:
Deconstruction Party!!!!
This Party will be held on April 30 , 7 AM with music , community speakers, pizza and beer for the volunteers. All tools will be provided, we will gut all wood items from the concrete units and get the structure down to the concrete. This community task will allow for a feasibility study which will culminate with an aquaculture design for the units. In addition, the owner if this project is deemed feasible, will donate units to a non-profit to be created for the entire Company homes. Those who give a damn, PM Youngstownshrimp.
This deconstruction party sounds like a great way to con local residents into cleaning up these properties for free, so that you can make money.
A Real Plan that does not involve chemical and fish smells wafting through our windows all summer long is located at www.haveacause.com and new residents are moving into the neighborhood all the time. You can take a look at four years of improvements and come see our receipts for the money that was spent on property that we have kept clean, maintained and cut grass on, including Mr. eiselstiens in 2007 until we realized he does not keep to his agreements, and still has yet to do so. Youth Build of Mahoning County will be joining us this spring as we restore several porch roofs and paint and board up a few rows that really need it. Our plan for environmentally friendly housing is much cleaner, safer, and being adopted 100 times more widely than this crazy idea. As for all the information about how hot this topic is, put it to the test against Solar and Wind power and all the people, cities and communities that are utilizing it. I do believe you will find that it is much more of a popular idea than Urban Aquaculture and more feasible not to mention cleaner and safer for a residential neighborhood.
Oh and see if anyone anywhere has a design more sophisticated than the one we have preliminary plans for online at our site for new Solar Powered windows. I can see a factory building them for the entire nation right down in the old mills WHERE IT SHOULD BE, AWAY FROM OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH IS GROWING MORE EVERY DAY.
Letters of Protest are being written, petitions will be circulated, and our citizens will be holding a demonstration to protest this whole concept on the proposed clean up day. Mr. Eiselstein has offered to donate those properties a to our Iron Soup Historical Preservation Committee a dozen times since 2007 but every time there are some new conditions or new things he needs us to do. Last year it was if you help me make the fish farm happen Ill donate the property to you but we had no desire to support such craziness than, and we don't now. That is why we put him out on the news in regards to the mess he has left in our neighborhood with kids living right next door. Go look on our site at www.haveacause.com and see what his row looks like and what he has done in the past four years. Great place for rats, possums, and other low life creatures, two and four legged, to hide out.
Oh and before Mr. Eiselstein tells everyone what a terrible guy I am, yea I am a former criminal, convicted in 96 and spent 3 years in Federal Prison. Hey Maybe I should run for office! But just like a good carpenter, even if he has been retired for 20 years, can spot another good carpenter, a good criminal, even though he has been retired for 16 years, can still spot another good criminal. Also I dont have a lot of money, don't have a nice car, fancy truck, big house or store in Poland. All I have, and all I need is a decent home and a decent neighborhood around it. That would be a neighborhood that does not include a fish farm, or Mr. Eiselstein. Myself and the people in our organization, who are all fine outstanding members of the community, are not interested in money. We are interested in a saving a great piece of history, creating a good clean neighborhood with good residents, and helping to end our planets dependance on fossil fuels to power our homes.
I have spent the last 10 years of my life working to better my city, my county and my state. I was a founder of the Youngstown Channel, (The New TV) which is responsible for even today our commissioners meetings being available online. I worked with our Veterans associations and have letters of accommodation from Tim Ryan, John Bocceri, Robert Hagan, Brigadere General Vincent K. Brooks and am well known by all our county commissions both past and present. Mr. Eiselstien enjoys throwing my past up in my face but I think my record of integrity, dedication, drive and community service over the past decade speaks for itself.
We do not want the smell of fish and chemical tank odors wafting through our windows if we have them open in the summer. Put your fish tank down in one of the old mills or on Wilson Ave. WHERE THEY BELONG because our organization, along with every person in and around this neighborhood opposes it being in our neighborhood.
Best of Luck
Timothy G. Sokoloff
Iron Soup Historical Preservation Committee Chariman
To bad Mr. Tim Sokol, like I told you four years ago, talk is cheap, you had four years to perform and nothing. The homes are worse now than ever, and are now only 20% occupied and habitable. You either lead follow or get out of the way! Well, Tim I guess the Party will go on without you, you were invited... all three of you.
Oh! and Leah IFFT, in your past posts, what did you mean by "I'm happy that they accepted my Direction Card and WIC?"
The post you're referring to was last year regarding the North Side Famer's market. I said: "That is so great that they take the Direction Card and WIC benefits. I'm pretty excited to hear about the fair trade coffee and yard sale too. Coffee and bargains." Two of my favorite things in one place!" I was expressing my support for an event that makes locally grown, organic, and healthy food available to low-income residents in the city of Youngstown.
Yet, you're trying to discredit me by painting me as some stereotypical welfare queen.
If you'd like to engage in a debate over public assistance benefits, I'd be happy to do that at another time and in another place.
By the way, nice touch exposing my last name in capital letters. I have nothing to hide, detective.
another shrimp get rich proposal that smells FISHY>>>>>>>>>
Sorry for the distraction folks, had to shake off the entitled "Fleas." So now let us get back to planning the "Party." Here is today's update, talked to Jack Dill, he said fine, just keep him posted. Talked to Councilman Tedesko, he wanted me to have their secretary place info. in each councilman's inbox. I mentioned what permits needed and Police to keep an eye out on things. Oh, we have more sponsors and volunteers coming forth again. Maybe we can get the party as big as when we show outdoor movies.
Sounds like fun, although I'll be in both Pittsburgh and Cleveland that day.
Are not the company homes zoned residential?
How can one put a commerical enterprise like shrimp harvesting/farming in a residential area?
And why would you?
Wouldn't it be easier to buy some commerical property or building to house one's shrimp farms?
Or is the one backing this proposal too cheap to buy or rent already standing commercial property?
Excellent questions. I can't wait to hear the answers.
Mr. Eiselstein has plenty of other properties that are viable. You should look up all his properties on the Mahoning County Auditors site, also you should run a search on Google and Yahoo on his name, oh and PLEASE FEEL FREE TO RUN MY NAME AS WELL. Again just look at the before and after pictures of what we have done in four years at www.haveacause.com. If it were not for Iron Soup, permission would have been given in 2009 for demolition and at the end of the summer in 2010 when the city of Campbell received their stimulus money most of these buildings would have been destroyed including Ron's but of course that would have meant nothing to him but a bill assessed to the taxes he doesn't pay anyway because, as he likes to say if it is not making money why pay the taxes. MONEY MONEY MONEY. Ron you can't take it with you.
If it were not for the HUNDREDS OF HOURS EVERY SINGLE YEAR that our organization has put into saving these places, we would not even be having this conversation and if you think we did all that work for YOU to slide on in and make money of if it you will soon learn differently. You should also not talk about people unless you will say it to their face. I certainly have no problem speaking my mind, I am sure you are already aware of that. Also no one in this neighborhood cares what you think about any of us. If men were men today and went out and got jobs and took care of their women and children like men should single moms wouldn't have to ask the government for money. There are of course many who need to go out and get a job and quit milking the system for money, and their are of course families that have suffered because of the economy and are in need of help. In the end though whatever anybody's case is before you start making derogatory remarks about this place and the people who live here you should make sure you know your speaking too. We all know a lot of people, these are homes, not caves contrary to your belief.
Honestly if it were not for the handicap the stupidity of my youth caused me, I probably would never have come back to this neighborhood, I could be working at Google and you know it. Funny how you are both my rival and one of my references.
You can not deny that I have an incredible grasp of everything technological. Here here is something for you. Did you even look at the designs on our site? Why don't you look at those designs and invest in that. We can develop them right here.
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I also have a furnace made out of something very common as well that produces heat like a blast furnace. And don't get it messes up I left a lot our of those online drawings .. they work guaranteed. I understand patent, copyright and trademark also, if you remember I handled all the new TV work in that area as well as all the website technology.
And how DARE YOU. Four years of wind, rain, hours of daylight study, and you have the nerve to say I did nothing ... Who built the site, figure out the business plan of student housing based on academic excellence, who put together the organization the cuts the grass, has been cleaning up, cutting down brush, moving tons of trash and garbage out to the curb in garbage cans, and in 4 years has removed 12 truckloads of tires from the area with no more than 2 full time people a year. 2 RON.
Did you even look at your before and after photos on our site compared to the before and after of Delmar? Do you know how much money it takes to keep just half the grass cut here a year? We had to bring the news out to get you to cut your grass and you can see that the park, which was 8 foot high and filled with garbage, literally like a section of BFI, was cut and clean, who do you think did all that YOU, Santa Claus Maybe.
Here are some original words of wisdom for you my friend it was the first quote I wrote for the year.
For the wise man the choice NOT to be a sheep is easy. It is whether to be a Shepherd of a Wolfe, that is the difficult choice (You like that didn't you, yea I wrote that, Google Tim Sokol for more of my work.)
The Yule Brenner crack was nice by the way and you can talk all that crap you want, but in the end people take my side because the know I want nothing from them, I am not out to take anything from or away from them, the deal I tell you today I will honor tomorrow and when I say I will pay you to do something if you do it I will pay you when I told you and how much I told you. I don't have any pretty little store in Poland, no nice cars, no fancy clothes other than a suit for when the occasion calls, but I have something that is worth much more. A word that when given, people know will be full filled.
So wolf boy, bring it, because this Shepherd carries a mighty stick. (That is metaphorical) I had to put that in there so Ron doesn't call the cops and complained that I threatened to beat him with a stick. LOL
Man, I really don't have time to debate you Tim...jeez, all those words and really nothing you offered shows any production. Granted you cut grass and built a misleading website, we all have seen the burnt out hulk of what is left of the company homes. And everyone here knows how to pull up Iron soup properties on the Auditor's site as well. But since you have come to my post and are crying for me not to be productive there, talk is cheap so let me try to reason with you with basic questions:
1. As I and Atty. Chevlen stated to you last year, we will donate these properties to you if you can show the funding and plans to make them productive, so please, let us all see them now, right here?
2. You have showed me a few days ago the incorporation of Iron Soup as a nonprofit.... finally. Please reveal names of trustees, assets and bank accounts?
3. A recent investor has purchased over 35 units, please reveal to us how this investment compliments your project and formal agreements with other investors such as Kish, Chuck and Donna?
4. I know and have spoken to the City leaders, please reveal to us all permits , and letters endorsing your project?
Again, why doesn't Shrimp just buy one of the area's empty concrete buildings that are up for sale?
Surely there are already empty concrete buildings the Shrimp can buy up front and move into immediately
to start his dream.
Why does he need an army of volunteers bribed with food and beer to do his dirty work?
Ron I concur on not having time to debate. Just having to rally the neighborhood together and do all that will be needed to stop this insanity is wasting time I should be using getting ready use all the new paint, concrete and other material that will go into the renovation of our properties on Delmar. As for Mr. Burkholder and his band of 20 something cluless kids that purchased Steve Malutik's properties, although Steve did nothing here in the past 20 years, nothing is far better than what they have done. You can not just come here to our home and totally disregard the residents and property owners that are here and have been breaking our backs for the past four years to try and clean this area up. As for a misleading website, wow Ron, catch a grip. The pictures are real, the mess that you have done nothing with until now, because you believe you can make some quick money at everyone else's expense, are REAL. Next you will be telling people we fake the photos. Well on the 30th I will have the video tapes that were shot as our ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD CAME OUT TO CLEAN UP THE PARK AND THE ENTIRE AREA AROUND NOT ONLY YOUR UNIT BUT MANY OTHERS. Those neighbors will also be on hand to protest your presence in our neighborhood. We will also have food and refreshments. Anyone wishing to leave the dark side and join us is welcome.
Once again, you are a Wolf only here to milk whatever money you can out of this neighborhood. It is people like you that made it what it is today leaving a mess of gigantic proportions for people like us who really care to clean up.
As for the viability of our organization we are getting stronger every year and if you continue to slander us and make false accusations about the validity of our information I hope you can prove it in court. There is nothing misleading about our website and nothing misleading about our information. You are just upset because I had the fore sight to document everything that we have done in the past four years. You and those like you who run around saying nothing has been done in the past 20 years must have missed the NICE WHITE BUILDINGS Mr, Kish painted not to long ago, or how about the entire row on Jackson that was totally redone within the past 10 years and made into literally like new apartments, and wow, in the past two years we have acquired 11 new residents, doesnt seem like much but that is a lot for a neighborhood that a bum would not have lived in only a few years ago.
Progress in your opinion is only valid if you are profiting from it. Again it is all about money, not about people, not about pride, not about community, not about preserving the history of our valley, and not about concern for anyone. Know that today and every day I will be here, there and everywhere doing every single thing I can to put a stop to your shenanigans and make you honor your agreement that you publicly made on the News. In the end you will find it would have been much easier to attempt to fleece a different flock.
As for money we are slowly but surely building a base of loyal shoppers online and those shoppers are getting us donations. By the beginning of summer we will have big news to release regarding our financial situation. Again you forget I am the MASTER of this domain we call the web and what Dennis would not let me do for the New TV I will do for Iron Soup. The New TV should have been YouTube, we did come out at the same time, but limited thinking and doing nothing but wanting to smile and look good in the public eye ended that profitable venture.
As a matter of fact, thank you. You little clean up stunt will give us a boost announcing our new super cool way to raise funds for Iron Soup by doing something that tons of people all over the country do every day. Can't wait to see you on the 30th old friend. I hope you are up to the challenge as you, your attorneys, and all you money and power will have to work double overtime to get past little ol me and my organization of Low Life's, as you like to refer to us. Again, be careful who you are talking to.
Oh and if you want detailed plans of my windows, water systems and hygenerators, you will have to sign a non disclosure and non competition agreement. I am releasing a more detailed set of plans though this week as I have some investors of my own that have been watching our progress over the past year. Not that I don't trust you ..... Yea Ok I don't trust you, of course that is common with people who know you so it's nothing you are not used to.
As for funding, it is slowly starting to happen. Any MBA will tell you that a typical business does not become profitable until the first 3 to 5 years. Up to that point it is reinvestment and forward motion. Four years and we are finally starting to make some headway and by next year will have all the funding we need to renovate that unit. Until then however we will fight not only you, but anyone ... tooth and nail .... that attempts to destroy, damage, or ruin in anyway these buildings or our plans to make it back into the awesome place it used to be.
I know that it being the worlds first modern apartment complex ever build means nothing to you, but for myself it means enough for me to defend it with my very life and believe me in the past four years my life has literally been put in jeopardy to stay in the neighborhood and continue my work. I have been threatened with having my apartment fire bombed, I have had people in my face threatening to beat me to death, I even had someone attempt to set fire to one of my units. Compared to that you will be a walk in the park. Have you ever in your life believed in anything at all Ron? You can not imagine what I have sacrificed, left behind, and peril I have put myself in to continue my work at this place. But yet I stand unscathed, strong and tall against any and all who will come here with anything but the best intentions.
This is a place that was built for people, by people, and still inhabited by people, and it will continue to do so, unless they tear them down, which sadly would be a better idea than yours.
Good luck and Ill see you on the 30th.
Your old friend
The Shepherd
Wow, after viewing the pics at the haveacause website I can't believe what sad shape the properties Shrimp
"owns" are in......
and not to do any renovations in 4 years is even sadder.......
I guess these company house properties are the same properties Shrimp refuses to pay taxes on.......
Again, this Shrimp deal seems fishy......
Could be an interesting morning in Campbell on April 30th...bring a lawn chair, some popcorn, and drink......
this could be the next great reality tv series on TLC........
"We're Gonna Party Like It's 1999!!!"
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You can not just come here to our home and totally disregard the residents and property owners that are here and have been breaking our backs for the past four years to try and clean this area up.
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Dear Mr. Sokoloff (aka The Shepherd),
It is my understanding that your initial plans for the Sheet and Tube housing was for the units to be used for online sex cams. Your getstrange.com website was previously 18 and over and was a recruitment page to get actors or "models" as you call them for your online porn business. It stated that the online encounters would be live. The reason I looked into you at that time? I was concerned for a teenager who knew of your plans and was also a minor at the time. A lost lamb? Getstrange.com's current myspace page is for friends only, possibly due to its content? Earlier descriptions of the Ohio porn studio renovation plans on your personal myspace page clearly indicated that the property was the same as the Iron Soup Project. IE Gray water, green building, renewable energy etc. The information specifically about the property renovations has been removed from your myspace page. However a quote is below from your currently posted blog that speaks of a studio in Ohio. Personally I prefer fish tanks, manure dumps, or complete deconstruction to having a cyber brothel in a Campbell neighborhood where children are being raised.
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We do not want the smell of fish and chemical tank odors wafting through our windows if we have them open in the summer.
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I'd certainly prefer the smell of fish to sex noises carrying through the neighborhood when you "open your windows." Chemical usage is kept to a minimum in a aquaculture environment due to the fact that chemicals can harm the water-life and can make it unfit for consumption. Anyone who has had pond or even an aquarium knows that it becomes an mini eco system and the smell is minimal. If that is your complaint you need to grasp at another straw.
Your getstrange.com website states that you are currently involved in the adult film industry. And if there is nothing illegal about having an online web cam prostitution business I have questions about yours.
Where is your current adult film studio located? What location is shown on your schedule C - profit or loss from a business?
If said location is in fact in a residential neighborhood, is that neighborhood zoned to allow an adult film studio or live webcam porn.
Below is a post from your current blog - if you delete it today, it will still be here for all to see.
The following is a quote from your getstrange webpage located at http://getstrange.com/clients.htm
where it currently states:
VS Media
This is one of the companies which we produce adult entertainment for. We are not posting links here to this as it is inappropriate for some viewers. We do have a profile set up at myspace however which has information regarding the adult division of our operation. Please feel free to visit us their and learn more about what we are doing in adult video.
Your personal blog post located at
http://www.myspace.com/hitekguy/blog/363164268
Working, Learning, Growing, Playing
March 2, 2008
Current mood:animated
Wow .... what a ride LOL ... Our crew has now expanded to 5 of the coolest most adventurous individuals who are all about seeing true prosperity.
If you know anything about business, than you know that to start a company with no more than what would be found in ANY average home which means NO INITIAL INVESTMENT to start a studio, that is showing potential profit numbers that are .. it is good
ADULT ENTERTAINMENT IS NOT WHAT YOU THINK HOWEVER ... We presented a Shower show scene this weekend just to see how it goes .... KEEP IN MIND THESE SHOWS ARE LIVE ... Have you ever had to set up a computer, monitor, TV/Monitor Prompter and Camera ... (We do not use web cams ... but you can use them) in a SHOWER .... ROTFLOL .... we are getting an education LOL ... and HONESTLY ... we did not make squat LOL but had a great time and learned a lot ... an entirely new set up was conceived and tested and our first Micro Flick is now IN PRODUCTION. Of course we shot a whole day with two 4 hour shifts ... The shower scene cost us time but learned us well and we STILL MADE a little money for the day. We are already working on our first outdoor shoot and have all the things we have learned so far to bring it to fruition.
Behind the scenes we are forming good friendships, partnerships, and as each passing day goes by, a solid, sound company that WE ARE PROUD to be a part of. Our industry provides a service that helps keep this planet safe .... because on the not so fun side we get a look at the sick, twisted, and sometimes frightening things some people fantasize about.
Security of Models, Staff etc. are job one with us also and we maintain strict confidentiality. We are fortunate to have a strong business model, an outstanding team of advisers with a multitude of business experience who put a lot of thought into the most important factors to consider when venturing into the industry.
Of course all the forethought in the world can not really prepare you for the things you will run into in a business start up, especially one that is showing a tremendous potential for success and this is my fist INDOOR BASED COMPANY WHERE MOTHER NATURE EFFECTS THE OPERATIONS OF THE BUSINESS. Ladies I stand with you when I say that PMS TOTALLY SUCKS LOL ....
My supreme thanks to Temperance and Misty_May, sorry can't say their real names, who are not only proving to be awesome models, but awesome additions to our company in many areas including recruiting, set design and staging, costuming and scripting. They will be rewarded for their efforts with shares of this company when we incorporate.
As founder of this company I believe that those who stand and form the foundation should have a solid stake in what they are holding up. There is still room for one or two spots on the bridge however but I suspect those will be filled soon.
So now the journey truly begins. To all my friends and family back home I can not say how much I love and miss you all. I can not wait to come home and share the fruits of my labor here with you all and to open our Ohio branch of getStrange Productions. Then it is on to Florida where we have studio space and models waiting as well.
It is all sometimes a little overwhelming as we move forward. One must wonder is this how Hugh Hefner started out. To sit and ponder what founders of things like google and YouTube felt as their ideas and concepts started to take life as a working business model.
I will actually be taking a couple days to do paperwork etc.. and some recruiting as 10 hour days on the set are still a little tough especially when we made the mistake of rearranging the entire set up to test a shower show. LOL ... Hey ... we live, we work, we play and we LEARN ... but keep an eye on our profile as we are always growing.
Last but not least, we are always recruiting new models, studios, and set locations ....
Peace to all and Best Regards
Tim Sokol
President./CEO
getStrange Productions
Again, how can a commercial fish pond house be built in a residential area?
Why has not Shrimp done any work to these properties in Campbell over the last four years?
Why can't Shrimp just buy commerical property to house these indoor fish ponds?
Probably has changed his plans since it is now a high profile "community" project but as recently as 2008, he was talking about the renovations for a studio in Ohio.
I still have to wonder about getstrange productions - and its tax filing address.
Wow I see at least someone Ron knows can read. That's a relief. In 2008 I went to Cottonwood CA to venture into adult entertainment as I could get NO ONE TO DO ANYTHING ELSE TO HELP ME RAISE MONEY TO DO SOMETHING WITH THIS SITE AND IT SEEMED LIKE A GREAT WAY TO RAISE SOME FUNDS. Sorry sex sells, get over it. Its not like that is something that everybody does not already know about me including a few people in the city administration SO THERE. Here however are the real facts of that venture AND I CAN PROVE THEM ALL. The attempt failed, and just so you know, the Ohio Studio was going to be on the North Side of Youngstown located in a Mansion Literally a mansion of a prominent person in the home of someone we BOTH KNOW WELL RON.
The Irony is that we both planned on using a good pat of the profits to further our environmental goals and produce prototypes of the awesome window and furnace designs I came up with. If you had any sense you would realize that no model of any kind would come here to this place to do any kind of anything THAT IS WHY WE WANTED TO SHOOT IN A MANSION Dumb #$%. In case you have not noticed, it is not the best looking neighborhood and even after we reface and paint our building this spring we still have the owners on Andrews, and Blackburn who could care less to deal with and their mess of a property as well. Ron is not the only dead beat owner in the neighborhood so we are not just going to pick on him.
getStrange Productions, at least the Adult Entertainment part of it died at the beginning in 09 because if it had not, I would be so rich I would have paid Ron to go away long ago. It is a tough industry and you have to have a lot of cash to do a real start up. My partner and I fell short, but it was no more of a loss than the 4 years I spent at The New TV making internet webcasting history. I didn't make any money at that either, but only because my partner in that endeavor did not want to make money and he was paying the bills so it is what it is.
If you think you can turn up what you think is a skeleton in my closet and scream Halleluiah and the Truth Shall Set Us Free, you will have to do way better than that.
Maybe Ill revive that effort and take sign ups at the protest while we are having our Yard Sale to raise funds to paint more rows and make more improvements, maybe we can pay some more of our back taxes that we are although very slowly, but surely trying to pay off. At least someone in this place is paying something eh. So Aurora do you have what it takes? Probably not. Oh and I have strict documentation that getStrange ONLY EVER OPERATED IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF OUR WHOLE THREE MODELS WAS OVER 18 and we worked a whole three weeks and closed, attempted to revive our idea in Florida and New York but failed to interest investors in our new concept for the industry because it was dubbed as to advanced for the technology of the time. So like Cameron, I will have to wait for the world to catch up to me before I can do something with my production ideas.
There was never a plan to use anything here as a studio. I know many people in many places especially in and around the Mahoning Valley and by the way Ron, Dennis is right that was uncalled for. And again you little .... errrrrrr I will not loose my cool. Don't make me get crappy about this. I am tired of your FALSE information mill and two can play at that game, but I am trying not to stoop to your level of indecency. There is NOTHING ILLEGAL about over age consenting adults being in the adult entertainment industry. Oh and if I remember right you were quite a fan of the idea when I mentioned it to you back then. If you think about it real hard, ill bet you can remember the technology we came up with that you thought was so unbelievably cool. Oh of course I am sure you don't remember any of that now.
OMG Aurora Say it isn't so. Ron "A MAN" heaven forbid might be interested in looking at a beautiful young naked woman. Oh My what is the world coming to.
As for me not updating my website, or taking down the myspace for getStrange, we made a lot of good friends in many places, all of whom are decent people and who will still communicate with to this day and myspace is just how we all stay in touch. As for the getStrange Website LOL what a joke. Trace on the Internet Wayback Machine when the last time that site was updated. ARE YOU SERIOUS. IS that all you got AH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH Never was there a plan to do anything like that at the site, despite the multitudes of people that wanted me to do just that. Funny how you attack me for that, but if I would have took THAT DEAL I would probably be like Ron out smoking big expensive cigars, driving my nice toys, with a pocket full of money.
I opted for a better cleaner environmentally friendly neighborhood filled with cool people and straight A college students. Unlike Ron I would not sell out my neighborhood for financial gain so LETS NOT GET IT MESSED UP.
In the end however, what a woman chooses to do with here body, or a man for that matter, is their business. If you are an adult as defined by the law, and you are of sound mind and body I believe you have the right to do as you choose with it. And if you really want the whole of it, that includes, putting whatever you want in your system, even if it is stupid and useless to do so, ceasing to exist if you get tired of this stupid rock, not bringing another life into this world that will suffer because of whatever bad situation you may be in, and taking your clothes off in an adult film.
And I am sure your next little blog will have a host of useless dribble about my morality, but BEFORE YOU THROW SOMEONE OUT IN FRONT OF THAT BUS CHECK YOUR FACTS. The address listed for getStrange Productions IS the same address as Iron soup because that is the business address for everything I do. I also use it for my web design work www.timsokol.com which I am quite good at.
getStrage is dead and now the only reason we keep the name and the site up, is we are planning to auction it off at a domain sale. So Aurora DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS, seeing how you are Ron's Salvation, get to saving then. You think this trifling little thing will even shake me an inch. Ill have my website up on a monitor right next to the videos of this place on the 30th. Again, EVERYONE KNOWS WHO I AM.
I do not smile in the light of kindness then hide in the shallows of greed. I am not afraid of my past surely look forward to my future. Oh and here you go boys and girls, here is a bone for you. I OWE BACK CHILD SUPPORT, just before you bring it all up. So do hundreds of other people. I am paying on it to the best of my ability and could have paid it off in the last four years with no stress had I not invested all that money into this place, and for what, so it can be a Shrimp Farm, I think not. If I was not willing to put the business that you people are trying to accuse me of doing in this place just to make a profit, I am surely not going to allow this to happen either.
And in the spirit of truth and fair play, I would rather run a shrimp farm than an adult entertainment company because adult entertainment is a seedy business. I am in a way relieved it never really took off. I even had a chance recently to revive it and let is past me by.
Lastly, You don't scare me girlie. Ill get you, and your little shrimp too eeee hehehehehehehehehe (again the Ill get you is metaphorical, I am sure you get the reference but I won't open the door for you to press charges). So I am guessing you will be one of Ron's victims on the 30th. I say victims because that is what Ron Leaves behind, especially in Real Estate Dealings.
Best Regards and Good Luck
The Shepherd
Oh and as for an investigation GO FOR IT. Your problem with me is that you can not fathom that money is of no interest to me. Sorry if that disturbs you.
If disclosing that I spent three years in jail didn't get a wink out of anyone what makes you think some failed little three week venture into adult entertainment is gonna do. You really want to get down and dirty, we can put some pretty good stuff out here Ron. Me and you both like to enjoy life and have a good time isn't that right. Everyone has the right to put whatever they want into their own bodies in my opinion. Don't you agree. Here is the deal though. I live in hell, and even if I made the news daily, no one cares, because I am not some well known high roller with all that stuff the money you love and cherish so much bring you. I am just a broke guy who can't get a job at McDonalds because he screwed his whole life up when he was younger by being a total ass who is trying to save his home and make it a better place because it is all he has in the world.
Nice try with the whole crap about the getStrange Production thing though. Like I said, if it would have worked out, we would not be having this conversation.
If you continue down this road now that you know the facts you better launch an investigation and I mean that sincerely. There never was any plans ever to do anything here other than restore these properties and live in them. Anything I did outside of here to raise money to further that cause, as long as it was legal, WHICH IT WAS, is really none of anyone's concern. And let me tell you I hope Leah files a suit against you for your comments, and Dennis as well. You are way past the bounds of Slander and Liable buddy. You know I have all the proof of everything I say here also, I would be happy to give you some more copies you can use for toilet paper as I did with our 501 (c) 3 paperwork.
My endeavor was legitimate and Oh Yea I am so sorry that I had a total and complete fabulous time in California with a bunch of beautiful and talented individuals YEA RIGHT. It was one of the best times of my life in many ways, but not the life for me. My blogs on myspace will stay I don't erase or hide anything. I mind my tongue in public as that is what Gentleman do. Ron should learn to do the same. I do like sarcasm and wit however, although I am stuck in a universe of battling wits with the unarmed.
I used to be a lot of things Pal, but I have always been a good honest business person. I have never cheated anyone, I have never stole anything and I work for every little thing I get, which ain't much for an ex con. Considering that 98% of people like me end up back where they were I would say I am doing pretty good. I have had plenty of opportunities to go back to the dark side, you of all people know just how smart I really am. Do you think I need to be here in this place with no money fighting to save the only home I have? WELL DO YOU?
I could beat your silly little economic status quo in a week, wolf boy. But I left all that behind me and changed my damn life and promised to be a different person. Greed, the want for money, the cars, the boats, the toys are what made me do the things I did. I just got caught, and someday so will you my friend. I never have to look over my shoulder again or feel the dread that someone is going to catch up to me.
I am a faithful friend, companion, neighbor, and father now. All the things I really wanted to always be, so if you are coming to disturb my calm and invade my home I hope you are really up to the task, but making false accusations about the plans that our organization has for this site, slandering in the worst of fashion people you do not even know, and threatening people that have nothing to do with you, myself or this project, simply because you do not like their opinion is uncalled for. Kudo's to Leah on her comments you should get a lawyer in regards to Ron's Post.
Dennis I am not even sure if we have ever met but please accept my apologies for Ron's sad behavior. With the way he acts it is hard to believe his parents taught him anything, other than how to be greedy and have no regard for others. I am truly sorry if your lack of support for Ron's Project causes you any problems. If you would like copies of our records for getStrange Productions to see that I am telling the absolute truth in regards to everything I say here I would be happy to provide them to you.
I just hope the weather is nice on the 30th. I am a little disappointed in the fact that I will have to split my giant yard sale signs up to make protest signs.
Lastly we all know Ron, if he gets that one unit going, then he will expand as quickly as possible to all the other units, as they are ideal for his evil little plan, and that is where the problems begin. The chemicals I refer to would be the ones to maintain Salt water creatures, which are one although not the only, profitable seafood items, also there are smells from the fish themselves and fish like all other creatures on this planet, produce WASTE, and waste, in any form has odor. Also their are smells associated with the food certain fish eat, keeping the water clean requires minor amounts of certain chemicals that release what some feel to be noxious gasses. And if you are allowed to do this, you will not stop until you have as many units as you can filled up with these things and those small odors will now be a power plant of fish mills for the entire surrounding area to enjoy. With trucks coming in and out, pick ups, deliveries, and of course anyone who lives there now would be gone in favor of your new plan.
Don't you think I don't know what this is and how it works. Hey Wolf boy, not only do I know how to completely solve you problem of smell and odors guaranteed, I worked with a start up that was a potential solutions company for this technology. Again good people bad partners. Happens all the time. Like going into business with you would be eh.
And to show you how much my neighbor hood means to me, you could bring cash in a briefcase of any amount and I would turn it down before I would want this in this neighborhood and I mean that whole from the heart. Like I said, I could have sold out and had investors that thought these place WOULD HAVE BEEN PERFECT for studios, and they were right. These places are great for lots of things because they are the strongest, coolest, most incredible buildings in the whole damn county. Their money did not interest me, and neither does yours.
Living in a home that is powered by the sun and the wind, so that I can use the little bit of money I make to pay my back child support as opposed to having electricity, and having a neighborhood of cool easy going people where I can live my life out in peace is what I want. Keep your money, your fancy cars, your big house and all that crap. I had it once upon a time, and much more than you do right now buddy, but how I got it was not the way to go and I have the loss of the life of my dearest friend I ever had to haunt me for the rest of my days.
You want to throw me out in the middle of the street over some silly little business venture that is almost three years old and went nowhere, just remember that not only did I come from the streets, I used to run them.
You are no better now than I was then Ron, you just hide it well. You are a behind the scenes, legal, upright and proper criminal. You see, cheating people, short changing them, conning them out of something, whether it is free work, or some property, or even an apple, is criminal.
If I tell you today I am going to bring you a window. I know we are slow at getting things done, but with no money and no one really recognizing that we actually were doing something down here, and a volunteer staff with an average of 2 people we have done plenty. No where does our website, our directors, are photos, or anything else about us deceive. I made sure of it because of people like you who will come at us. Oh and you will not be the last. When we do get a grant, or if our new fund raiser continues to take off and we really begin rolling in the dough, little boy Burkholder's crew will be accusing us of embezzling, partying the money up, doing drugs and every other little thing on the planet their little brains can think of, and they have already tried.
That is why I keep my life totally documented. I have to. I know who I am and how some people like you perceive me and as I have already said, nobody cares what you think dude.
I am done with this discussion. You all can have at it. I have to get on with preparations for the big day.
Oh and Aurora as for the poke at The Shepherd Flock thing. Girls who take their clothes off on camera are wolves, not sheep, and they have the sharper fangs.
Best Regards
The Shepherd
I know exactly what I read on your getstrange website and on your myspace blog and it was about the renovation of the housing in Campbell. If untrue why not ask your silent partner to step forward and tell us all about the grand plan to make a mansion into a cyber brothel - Isn't the "mansion" area of the North side also residential and institutional? I browsed all of your pages and all of the content available at the time and even clicked the "enter only if you are 18" link and saw the sex trade recruitment pitch aimed at young people. Your getstrange web link is on your other CURRENT online projects and that page states you are still in the adult business. If it is defunct why not take it offline? It certainly isn't a very good advertisement for web design anyway. I checked the wayback machine awhile ago but apparently your robots text file is now blocking archival. I'm not shrimp's friend - don't know him. He is being attacked about residential zoning. Seems that others need to obey a few zoning laws as well. There are laws about locations where an adult business can be undertaken. The center of a residential neighborhood is NOT one of them. You have placed information online publicly about getstrange and its involvement in the adult film industry for all to see. It is current. I asked about your business address. Now you say that business doesn't exist.
As for saying you will "get me" on a public forum? Not grounds to press charges? The veiled threat says volumes.
You seem to like quotes about shepherds and refer to yourself as one.
Here's a quote for you by Stendhal - "The shepherd always tries to persuade the sheep that their interests and his own are the same."
We all know how that turns out.
A sweater or two, roast lamb & mutton stew.
Shepherds are all such nice guys.
I didn't even want to post here again but I have no choice. I would like to thank you for the destruction Ron and his friends for the devastation that they so easily cause to other peoples lives. As for you Aurora, the website talked about dozens of projects. There was a book project that was talked about, the New TV was discussed, the Youngstown channel and if I am not mistaken my working with Ron's outdoor theater. All part of things I have done in my life and all not related to each other. So if you assumed that because I discussed renovating the Company homes on the same site where an adult entertainment company was talked about why didn't you assume that they outdoor theater was going to play the movies we made. Oh that's right, because you only want things to spin in your direction. Maybe you will say next that because the site talked about the New TV and the Youngstown Channel that the county was in on it also.
The website is gone, and not because I wanted to take it down but because I have been forced to remove it. Unfortunately, although I could care less what any of you think about anything I have done in my past, or do in my present, I have other people to think about that depend on me to do the right thing. It is a shame you can go and take something from the past, especially something that was only in existence for a less than a month and use it to try and destroy people's lives. You say you don't know Ron, I believe that to be a lie. Digging up dirt on people and threatening to use it against them is Ron's forte when he does not get his way. Unfortunately those tactics don't work on me.
When you bring other people into it that I may not even know, simply because they don't agree with you, and publicly slander them is absolutely totally and completely despicable. My apologies again to everyone on this forum Ron has slandered. Dennis if I do know you I am just not recognizing the last name. Unlike Ron I don't have time to look up who is on here, I just appreciate the non support of the Fish Farms.
I certainly could spend a day listing the things about Ron that you will find on Google and Yahoo that I could post here that would be more than damaging to his credibility, but that is not going to do my neighborhood any good and that is what it's all about and if everyone deserts me because of your little smear campaign, I will still be there even if I have to stand against you alone. That is how I started here, standing alone against people like John Clinton, infamous thief and danger to the neighborhood, along with many other who threatened me, broke my windows, and as I said, try to set fire to my apartments all so they could continue to stay in this neighborhood and hide out from the police, rip off people homes, and do and sell serious drugs out of the empty units here.
These are the things I have been up against in the past four years. WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN YOU COWARD. I would like to see what you would do if someone put a gun to your face and told you to get out of the neighborhood or die. I stayed though, and continued to cut grass, board up units, fight to prevent demolition. Where is your signature, emails, phone calls that were made when the board of health started tagging these places for demolition. Why are you not a consulting party with the county and state in regards to these place like I am. Now that all the real hard work is done and the neighborhood is a much safer better place, you want to come in and make money off the backs of everyone who has been building this back into a neighborhood again.
And you want to use a cowards way of doing it by attempting to bring up things that are meaningless and then promote total and complete lies about what my intentions here are. I know that when I go to sleep at night, if I do not wake up the next morning I will be in a better place because I am a decent person who has never cheated anyone and keeps my word. As for my short, and I do mean short lived endeavor into getStrange Productions, it had nothing to do with this site, no more than your outdoor theater of The Youngstown Channel did and they were all on that site.
Taking things out of context and attempting to thwart the truth to your own ends is just going to make things worst for you. People are smart enough to read and decipher the truth and we certainly will give them the opportunity to decide if they think you are truthful or not soon enough. You need to stop the mudslinging crap though, at least against other people. Your beef is with me, keep it that way. don't bring other people into it who's lives you can destroy and jobs or careers you can put in jeopardy just so you can make a quick buck.
If you want to pick on someone pick on me Chuck and Bill, we are the main members of the board and collectively we own the majority of these units. Between the three of us we have a substantially larger holding than Mr. Burkholder, who no one can even find by the way. I wonder why that is Hmmm.
Everything I have said here has been directed at the topic and at your business ethic, which many many people who know you find to be questionable. Be a man and keep other people out of your problems.
Best Regards
Tim Sokoloff The Shepherd thing was a joke so I am dropping it as this is no longer a joking matter and has become a very serious problem.
:) Dennis, you have a habit of coming onto my post with no intention of honest debate but merely for harassment, if you cannot add anything honest to my project stay out, GET IT?
As for Tim Sokoloff, it is obvious that he has other intentions for the homes. I will say this one final time, you have only one parcel in your name and the others belong to a nonprofit, I do not tell you what to do with your parcels, YOU WILL NOT TELL ME WHAT I CAN AND CANNOT DO WITH MINE, GET IT?
And for the productive people reading my post and project, it is all about production to me and my investors, anything else is all talk as can be seen here by the detractors. If you need verification about the actors here, kindly call the Campbell City Hall, 330 755 1451
This thread has been reported numerous times by several parties.
In addition to the posts here, personal messages have been reported and contained extremely vulgar language.
Dennis,
Curb the profanity and name calling both in public and in private messages to others.
Remove your offending posts immediately.
Shrimp,
Remove the posts where you say Dennis is participating in illegal activities and Leah is involved in a sex business.
Thank you, FM
I have to clarify a few things quickly as Ron and his band of misfits are causing myself an epic amount of problems with their false accusations and imaginary plans that I am supposed to have for this place.
I do not speak here in this forum as a representative of Iron Soup. I speak here for the people that live in and around these units, many of whom WILL BE OUT TO PROTEST THIS ACTION. WE LIVE HERE DAMN IT. THIS IS OUR HOME. Iron Soup has not even had a meeting of official discussion in regards to this event, nor has any member of the board sanctioned or opposed it. The position of our Historical Committee is, lets see what happens.
As for myself and my fellow residents we do not want this, we protest as members of the community that have to live right next to this monstrosity that is being proposed and we have no affiliation with any group or organization other than the fact that we are all neighbors in the same area that don't want this to happen because once he gets one building he will not stop there, he will want them all.
As for the Iron Soup Historical Preservation Committee you can address any and all requests for information, which is all public by the way, to
Iron Soup Historical Preservation Committee
40 Chambers St.
Campbell OH 44405
We will be more than happy to comply with any written request by anyone as it is our duty to comply as an organization to written requests in regards to our records and finances. The organization has absolutely nothing to hide, anymore than I do.
If I have mislead anyone into thinking that my posts, or my actions have been part of Iron Soup, or that any of this has been approved in any way by my organization or our board of directors, volunteers or managers I apologize to all of you, to my board and to the public. My actions here are my own strictly and completely as a member of the community. For all I know our board my continue in the position of lets just see what happens and leave it all up to the citizens and the City of Campbell to hash out, which is fine with me as that is my official position as well from the perspective of my involvement. If I did not live here and was just a board member I would be of the mindset that the residents and the city are capable of figuring out what is best.
As a citizen that lives within 200 feet of this mess however, I am entitled to a right to my opinions, as are all our other property owners no matter what organization they are or are not affiliated with. I also did change my name on the postings to my own so that there is NO CONFUSION AS TO THE FACT THAT I STAND ALONE WITH MY NEIGHBORS against this plan, and not with the organization I am affiliated with.
To my board members I apologize for taking action that have brought you into something you all have nothing to do with. It is unfair that some of you are having to suffer the stress of this problem that you have had no input into.
Technically since Ron does not want to destroy the buildings and is in favor of putting them back to original status and look the goals of Iron Soup Historical are being met and we will have no public quarrel with him and unless a vote directs otherwise remain neutral.
Please again feel free to make any written request you desire for any information you are legally allowed to obtain under the laws governing a 501 (c) 3 and we will happily comply. All you will learn is that we take great care to cross our T's dot our I's and make sure we account for every penny of the non existent funding we have received.
As for my personal business records, finances and information I will refrain as a gentleman from telling you where you can go and what you can do. When Ron makes a full disclosure of his sorted past and business dealings let me know, I will be happy to follow suit. Once again I am not the one with all the fancy stuff, pockets full of money, property all over the county that I don't take care of, and a fancy little store in Poland. I am a man with nothing more than a home that I will, and have already protected with my very life.
As for your investors, they have no more right to come here and disrupt our neighborhood than you do. We don't care about them and their money and more than we care about you and yours.
Fortunately this is still America and although we don't have many rights left, we still have the right to join together and protest what we believe is wrong.
I do at least hope that we can stop attempting to spread rumors, put up false information, and take pot shots at people who are not even part of this. To irishbobcat I still agree with you. Ron putting you out there like that is an atrocity but those are his tactics. If I were a gambling man I would bet that not only does Aurora no Ron, he probably hired her to dig up whatever dirt she could on me to put out here so he could discredit me and ultimately get his way.
As for City hall, the opinion you get will depend on who you talk to...
I am relentless I promise you, and I will not back down and will continue to do whatever is necessary, as long as it is legal and moral (you may have to look that second one up Ron), to remove you from our community.
As a member of Iron Soup however, as long as you do not want to tear the buildings down or change their exterior or tile roof tops, and the city is willing to let you, than unless I hear otherwise from my board you can have at it. We may not like it, but at least if you get your way the buildings remain so please stop attacking people and things that are not part of this. Stick to the person who is causing you the problems .... ME. Don't bring in the outside world because you can't beat me.
And a little FYI, NO ONE INCLUDING THE RESIDENTS OF THE NON COMPANY HOUSE HOMES IN THIS AREA WANT THIS HERE. Not the people, not the businesses, NO ONE. So although you may be able to disregard me like a little fly on your lapel, let's see if your money, your power and all your fancy investors have what it takes to defeat this entire side of Campbell Ohio. Hmmm I wonder how many voters we can rally together for the protest, all of whom live right here in Campbell. Where do live and vote at again Ron??????
Sincerely
Tim Sokoloff
Concerned Citizen of the City of Campbell
To all of the above posters:
Do any of you realize that this back and forth (on all sides) mudslinging only serves to hurt both of your organizations objectives. I am sure both of you can agree that Campbell is a nice place and those company homes are worth saving (whatever the objective of each group of individuals and/or organizations). By slinging one another's mud you only serve to hurt your respective goals. Investors do not want to be involved in this sort of "dirty business". Why not put personal differences (whatever they may be) aside and respect each others goals and work together. Each group has significant financial and legal obligations to overcome in getting their projects off to a good start. Working together in support (or at least not publicly demeaning or objecting to the other groups goals) is the best way to reach each of your respective goals.
As I read this thread, I was honestly disgusted and sadden at the same time. Disgusted that grown men with professional objectives find it necessary to demean one another, bring up each others past and insult the goals of each others organizations. I was disappointed because you both fail to see how this sort of mudslinging only serves to dirty both of you and in the end hurt the reason you are both involved which is to make something (whether it be Eco-friendly housing or a shrimp farm) of the company homes. I would hope that you two would put aside your personal differences and either work together (with the other owners of those properties) or at least sit quietly on the side lines, if you disagree strongly with their objective.
In closing, you both would do well to realize that when you speak your personal opinions and you are publicly involved or head of an organization, people equate your opinions, views, etc with that of the organization. One need only look to the recent debacle with the Chamber of Commerce to see how that sort of behavior works out.
I sincerely hope that this mudslinging ends and that the two of you extend an olive branch to one another and reach your common goal, which is to clean up the company homes and remove the blight. If you would just focus on where your commonality lies instead of your differences I believe you can reach your goals.
Sincerely,
Teresa B
QuoteIf I were a gambling man I would bet that not only does Aurora no Ron, he probably hired her to dig up whatever dirt she could on me to put out here so he could discredit me and ultimately get his way.
Dear Mr. Sokol or whatever you call yourself,
I investigated you in 2008 when you were recruiting young people into your porn business. Reading recent posts filled with rhetoric about your upstanding citizenship and work for the community inspired me to post. Frankly, I wanted to barf. Apparently the plans for the buildings have changed lately but that DOES NOT negate the original intentions. If the plans were for the Northside as you've stated how can that location possibly be better than the location of the S&T homes? Still residential. The North Side Citizens Coalition might be interested in hearing additional details. I don't care about shrimp farming. I don't particularly care about the restoration but do realize others care about both issues. I do care about young people and those that attempt to manipulate them.
Apparently the Iron Soup Board of Directors is frowning upon this interchange as well they should. You have shown very little professionalism in your posts in this thread, even those before I blew the lid off of your adult movie business. Past or present- doesn't matter to me. It is what it is. You had certain plans for the S&T housing. You know it. I know it. And now others are questioning. Current references to adult entertainment filming on your website and openly stating that the material might offend some and directing interested parties to visit your myspace page for more information clearly shows that you have been involved recently. Pulling an entire website offline instead of removing one paragraph is certainly overkill. To replace it with a message singling out the shrimp guy and this website might be grounds for litigation.
I infer from your posts both here and on myspace that you have little respect for women... calling them wolves, talking about their PMS or implying that they need to be hired by a man to do anything that matters. Vocal women that don't agree with your opinion are immediately dismissed as tools. Trust me, women can and do think on their own and believe me when I say that if they knew the whole truth, they would run in another direction when they see you.
Dear Tburk,
I respect your opinion, However I will state that I am not a man and the past does matter, especially if it was this morning. I guess you believe the blarney that I am a hired hench woman?
Regarding http://getstrange.com
Please remove the reference to mahoningvalley.info as being Ron's blog from your website, Tim.
I am the owner. I am not Youngstownshrimp or even Jay as some have said- LOL
Forum members MUST follow the TOS.
You have been warned.
Ask Dennis about crossing the line. He thinks I am a Nazi.
Last Saturday, I spoke with councilman Mike Tsikouris, he is the councilman for the ward that the Company homes are in. I am impressed with him, he actually says he will come out and help us with the labor, he sounds like a true community leader to me, lead by example. I made it clear to him what our intentions are and that we are only interested in deconstructing all the wood of the interior of one unit in order to assess and record the condition of the surface concrete. The resulting information will be forwarded to the aquaculture experts in Seattle and the Ohio Aquaculture Assn. has also asked for the info. and requested to visit Campbell and tour the Company homes. At no time will the exterior of the building be altered. As first mentioned from the onset of this topic, that currently a study is being conducted in order to understand the feasibility in converting a unit to prototype aquaculture tanks. It is further stated that the City of Campbell has not issued any documentation endorsing anything other than stated.
Today, I spoke with Pete , Campbell's zoning coordinator, Pete has been aware of this vision from the inception. There has been several questions as to the zoning of aquaculture in a residential zone, this endeavor is so advanced, zoning has never encountered this usage. As with shrimp farming in the City of Youngstown, a judge ruled that basically there is no such thing as a permit to farm. However in Campbell, applying zoning to this project will truly set a precedent in the whole country as it pertains to urban agriculture with the conversion of existing structures.
To the forum manager, it will be done and I am sorry for the mess I helped to cause here and the reference will be removed asap.
TBURK1 great words of wisdom, this is doing no one any good and I acted totally out of Character. I am not in a position to let people make me loose my cool no matter how ridiculous their accusations are.
To the City of Campbell and it's administration also my apologies. I HAVE behaved very unprofessionally, but was not trying to start all of this and have been trying to maintain some cool, I should not have let myself succumb to such things as I did however.
To Aurora, we get it already, I was involved in a company a few years ago that was not in the best of taste or morality. You seem to be the only one who can not get past that.
To Ron, I apologize for any remarks that I have made demeaning your character as it was uncalled for ON BOTH SIDES.
I will not be participating in any protests as it would take up to much of my time that I need to use doing the important work of actually running the awesome organization I helped to form. I will however be out cleaning and working and will still have coffee and donuts on hand for anyone who wants them. Our organization has a little meeting place set up next to Ron's building and he is welcome to come on over and have a cup of coffee along with anyone else.
I do not know how this is all going to play out and I wish everyone the best. I can not speak for my neighbors, only for myself, but I have a lot of work to do prepping our buildings for painting, meeting with local organizations and promoting our cause, which means we still might have a yard sale to raise funds to do more work in the community. This week we are also announcing the installation of our new high tech security camera system. This will bring even more of a sense of security to our area. Also we have a Licnesed HAM radio operator that is helping us with a neighborhood watch development that will involve both HAM and Citizens Band Radio.
I sincerely hope that whatever you do there Ron, it improves the community so in the spirit of being gentleman of honor lets put an end to this and try to work together to at least no bash each other around. It is doing neither of us any good. Aurora I really hope that you follow suit, this is ridiculous and you can only post the same complaint so many times before people will just get tired of hearing it. Everyone knows now and as I said, no one seems to care any more than they did about my legal past. What was was. I never had any intention to do anything in those places that even come close to your accusations and every single person I have done business with in the past four years knows it.
Right now I just want to wish Ron the best, hope he at least fixes up the building, and if he gets it past city hall and the community, good for him. I certainly could have said plenty of terrible things and revealed deep dark secrets, but what would that prove, not a thing except to suck more valuable time out of both our lives that would be better served meeting both of our mutual goals which is preserving the most incredible buildings you will find in the Tri State Area at least.
I guess I will take you up on that cup of coffee Ron, Im buying LOL. We will have the coffee pot up and running at 40. Let's put a stop to this and see how we can work together in the event you do end up in my neighborhood and if you do, maybe I will tell you how to solve your little problem, but it will cost you and I'm not cheap.
I hope that I do not have to post here again as this ordeal has taken way to much time out of my schedule
Best Regards and Apologies,
Respectfully submitted
Timothy Sokoloff
Aurora:
I am sorry if you felt I was addressing you and/or thought you were a male. Although I did address it "to all of the above posters", I was really gearing it towards Tim and Ron, since they are the ones looking to improve the units. I understand you have issues with one or both of them, however my only concern is seeing that these homes get cleaned up and turned into something better than they are that adds value to Campbell. Personally, I don't see how someones past affect their volunteer work (Tim isn't being paid for this), but you are free to have your opinion.
Moving forward, I really hope that Ron accepts the olive branch that Tim has extended. It is what is best for the community and each of their respective projects. Campbell has enough trouble without bickering among those who are trying to make it better.
Teresa
Tim, Please remove my name and all pictures associated, from Iron soup HAVEACAUSE.COM or any other sites, thank you.
TBurk,
You seem to be a reasonable person. I am also very happy that the olive branch was extended. It happened because there is a board of directors and Mr. Sokol was representing the organization poorly. Mr. Shrimp posted something about a project and Mr. Sokoloff attacked. You must be a young person to think that 2008 is in the past. The material about getstrange was online yesterday. He didn't forget or was too busy to remove the paragraph. He is proud of it. The past is what makes us who we are today. He has dismissed me and my questions about a tax address and feels that there was nothing inappropriate about his defunct plans for the "north side mansion" and says I am the only person that cares.
Timsokoloff,
People do care about what I posted. (read 603 times) shows that this topic has been reviewed by many. You eventually responded to my questions about a tax address for your business saying it is none of my business. However you also went on a tangent that included offensive commentary about shrimp, me, even about yourself. People won't and don't comment or back up others on this forum because they are afraid of being attacked themselves.
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