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Youngstown & The Mahoning Valley => Valley Politics => Topic started by: Towntalk on October 09, 2008, 12:23:33 PM

Title: Voter Fraud
Post by: Towntalk on October 09, 2008, 12:23:33 PM
Ohio will once again be in the national spotlight over the voter fraud issue.

Ohio Voter Fraud Again
http://www.nypost.com/php/pfriendly/print.php?url=http://www.nypost.com/seven/10092008/news/politics/nuts__132771.htm

Voter Fraud Ignored by Government and Media
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/5454

VOTE-FRAUD-A-GO-GO
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10092008/postopinion/editorials/vote_fraud_a_go_go_132852.htm


Will Mahoning County be in the spotlight?
Title: Re: Voter Fraud
Post by: ytowner on October 09, 2008, 02:23:01 PM
Acorn-Fraud
Obama-Acorn
Title: Re: Voter Fraud
Post by: Towntalk on October 10, 2008, 01:29:12 AM
Ohio Secretary of State defies Federal Court Order directed at her regarding voter fraud.

Ohio secretary of state must verify registrations

http://www.kentucky.com/676/story/550998.html

There is more than ample proof that voter fraud is taking place, but Democratic Secretary of State wants to turn a blind eye to it. She thinks that she's above the law.
Title: Re: Voter Fraud
Post by: ytowner on October 10, 2008, 06:58:40 AM
FACTS
-105% of Indianapolis is Registered to vote.

-50% of the ballots on one Indiana County were thrown out. ACORN cast a ballot for Batman, thousands of dead people, and people that registered as many as 10 times in one day!

And this is where McCain needs to pounce on Obama for his relationship with Bill Ayers. Their far left education agenda worked with Acorn!
Title: Re: Voter Fraud
Post by: sfc_oliver on October 10, 2008, 10:44:39 PM
I'm sick over the whole thing. McCain acts as though he has given up. These ties to Ayers and ACORN should be more than enough to sink Obama. Add in the Rev Wright, Rezko , and Farrakhan, and you have a pretty bleak picture of who shouldn't even be on the ballot.
Title: Re: Voter Fraud
Post by: ytowner on October 11, 2008, 08:38:49 AM
I concur, if he runs on that for the final 4 weeks, this race will be tied before you know it. If he really wants the White House, he needs to nail Obama on being a member of the Socialist New Party, being friends with Rezko, Ayers, Raines, and Wright.

His crowds are getting angry because we are down, and they want him to go negative, which is our last hope.
Title: Re: Voter Fraud
Post by: Towntalk on October 11, 2008, 09:22:00 AM
With Election Day just 23 days away, and the media tearing away at him unmercifully it would take an act of God for him to pull off a victory.

A group of Congressmen have sent a letter to the Justice Depaerment demanding a probe of voter fraud, and even if such an investigation were to take place it could never be completed in 23 days or i time to effect the outcome of the election.

Justice already has ongoing investigations i several states, but unless you search through the local papers in those states, you'll never even hear about them via the electronic media.

The fix is in and I seriously doubt if even the likes of Rush Limbaugh can save the day.
Title: Re: Voter Fraud
Post by: rusty river on October 20, 2008, 04:08:54 PM
Quote from: Towntalk on October 10, 2008, 01:29:12 AM
Ohio Secretary of State defies Federal Court Order directed at her regarding voter fraud.

Ohio secretary of state must verify registrations

http://www.kentucky.com/676/story/550998.html

There is more than ample proof that voter fraud is taking place, but Democratic Secretary of State wants to turn a blind eye to it. She thinks that she's above the law.

How has she turned a blind eye? Her department followed the law to the letter and as new voter registration forms were filed (SINCE JANUARY), they were checked with dmv and ss records, which is why anyone is even aware of this problem. In other words, the secretary of state did her job as required of her and uncovered a mess of discrepancies. Its up to the counties (by law) to verify any flagged records. But republicans are claiming that brunner and her department must go through the records??? She has said that of the nearly 200,000 new registrants this year, that about 1/3 of them have info discrepancy, some as simple as misspellings, others that could very well be outright registration fraud. These records were flagged and the counties have access to this info. But republicans are saying that her department must verify 60,000 records in three weeks? (15 business days). How about we let the system function the way its supposed to and have the counties review the flagged records, LIKE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO. Obviously the republicans are trying to throw the Ohio election process into a state of chaos, just as they've done in the past. (Does Blackwell ring a bell??) And are people SERIOUSLY concerned that Mickey Mouse is going to show up at the polls and vote? Or that a man mentioned in one of the articles linked below is going to show up and vote 70 times because he registered 70 times??? Give me a break. The way ACORN functions is corrupt, and ACORN workers have admitted that they filled false records because they are paid by the quantity they sign up. But the notion that the election is going to be swayed because the corpses of my great grandparents are somehow going to be able to vote without anyone noticing is absolutely ridiculous.
Title: Re: Voter Fraud
Post by: Towntalk on October 20, 2008, 05:19:15 PM
Might I remind you rusty that in 2000 and again in 2004 the Democrats screamed bloody murder about Ohio being stolen from Al Gore (2000) and John Kerry (2004) so let me get it straight, its right and just for Democrats to scream voter fraud, but not for those accursed Christian Neo-Nazi Republicans to? Should they just shut up and do nothing?

Why don't we just declare the Democratic Party the official national party and outlaw all others. We might even make it a crime to be involved in any political party other than Democratic. What next ... strip them of their citizenship ... deny them their Constitutional rights ... bar them from owning property or businesses?

Lets just do away with the Constitution and name the Democratic President president for life and do away with elections.
Title: Re: Voter Fraud
Post by: sfc_oliver on October 22, 2008, 10:36:47 PM
And here we sit still waiting for our absentee ballots. I will call one more time tomorrow. Last week they told me 3 or 4 days. That was last Thursday. They really do not want me to have to drive over there. I tend to raise my voice like the old sergeant I am when I run into stupidity and incompetence. It's been over a month since we requested ballots One has to start to wonder.
Title: Re: Voter Fraud
Post by: Towntalk on October 22, 2008, 10:48:42 PM
I finally received mine yesterday and mailed it in today so my record for voting will go unbroked, but I'll tell you the wait aged me some ten years.

Before they moved my precinct from Wick Park to Harding I really enjoyed walking down to vote in person (three blocks from my home) and visiting with friends, and I really miss that.

Will anyone be going to the WKBN Election Night bash?
Title: Re: Voter Fraud
Post by: rusty river on October 23, 2008, 12:48:49 PM
Quote from: Towntalk on October 20, 2008, 05:19:15 PM
Might I remind you rusty that in 2000 and again in 2004 the Democrats screamed bloody murder about Ohio being stolen from Al Gore (2000) and John Kerry (2004) so let me get it straight, its right and just for Democrats to scream voter fraud, but not for those accursed Christian Neo-Nazi Republicans to? Should they just shut up and do nothing?

Why don't we just declare the Democratic Party the official national party and outlaw all others. We might even make it a crime to be involved in any political party other than Democratic. What next ... strip them of their citizenship ... deny them their Constitutional rights ... bar them from owning property or businesses?

Lets just do away with the Constitution and name the Democratic President president for life and do away with elections.

Well, i must (respectfully) say, your rant here is a little extreme and unwarranted. You did not need to remind me about the 2000 and 04 elections, as I had already mentioned Ken Blackwell in my post below. And the current issue isn't VOTER fraud, it's REGISTRATION fraud. What Blackwell did was literally toss ACTUAL VOTES out and bring in voting machines that many other states have banned because they can be tampered with so easily. What Brunner has done is her job, which was to cross-check every voter registration record with SS and DMV records and make it known to the counties, which has the duty to ensure that voter fraud does not take place. Ohio republicans would not even know there was a problem, let alone the magnitude of it, had she not done her job as was required of her. If some dim-witted poll worker allows Joe the Plummer to vote 70 times, by all means, scream voter fraud at the top of your lungs. It seems to me that you, like many media controlled zombie Americans, have bought into a biased spin on the truth instead of seeing the facts as they are. And please note that I am not directly attacking your intelligence, but am reminding you that in the grand circus that is the 2008 election season, its easy to get fed misinformation.
Title: Re: Voter Fraud
Post by: Towntalk on October 23, 2008, 03:51:32 PM
1. Please be so kind as to inform us of which media source you find acceptable as it would help us to understand where you are coming from.

2. You missed the entire point of my response, it was not, and I repeat not a question of voter registration verses direct voter fraud, but a combination of both as portrayed by the news media. Certainly of all the questionable voter registration cards that have been submitted, very few of them will be translated into actual votes. This is a given.

3. Nor is my "rant" as you put it against the DNC. It's against the news media and particularly the 24/7 cable news channels, and radio talkers.

4. While I won't say here who I voted for, I will say that based on such radio talkers as Bill Cunningham; Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage I strongly favor the return of the Fairness Doctrine. Enough said?

5. Finally, there is no need for me to "scream at he top of my lungs", and I wouldn't anyway since I have three sources to do it for me without having to open my mouth once, using the exact words of those I reference, and not rely on third party quotes.

I do agree with you that there are a lot of lemmings out there that march to the tune of their favorite pipe piper whether its Matt Drudge, WordlNetDaily, Luciana.com or Rush Limbaugh, and couldn't make an intelligent decision on their own, but then again the same can be said for those on the opposition.

By the way, recall if you will that in the first post in this thread, I merely linked to three newspapers without comment so that those who read them could decide whether she was right or wrong in what she did.

In case you forgot, technically its a Fourth Degree Felony to falsify a voter registration card whether you vote or not according to the Ohio Revised Code.

Granted its next to imposable in 99.9% of the cases for anyone to be prosecuted, but its still a felony all the same.
Title: Re: Voter Fraud
Post by: Elmo-Ytown on October 23, 2008, 08:43:32 PM
It's plumber, not plummer.....