Steeple being removed for safety reasons.
http://www.vindy.com/news/2013/jan/10/damaged-steeple-being-removed-unitarian-church/ (http://www.vindy.com/news/2013/jan/10/damaged-steeple-being-removed-unitarian-church/)
Some members would like the steeple to be restored exactly, because it is located within the Wick Park Historic District.
Others are concerned about the cost of restoration, and some have suggested steeple alternatives such as solar panels or a wind turbine.
It would be a crime if the steeple was not restored and solar panels or a wind turbine were placed there instead.
First Unitarian is a very beautiful church whose beauty would be destroyed by placing solar panels or a wind turbine in the steeples place destroying the steeples symbolism and making the church just another building.
I agree, it should be preperly restored to its original appearance.
I know St. Nick's Church has structural problems with their stepple a year or two ago....and had to change the design...I believe they also had to make changes to their bell tower as well.
Would north side residents who were not members of this congregation be willing to contribute to the restoration of the church steeple?
Absolutely, because we North Siders look after each other unlike folks in other sides of town, and we don't need outsiders telling us what to do.
When Richard Brown had a fire that prevented them from holding services who came to their aid? The Jewish Church next door opened their doors to them at no charge until repairs were completed. No one from the West Side helped the church.
I would like to find out exactly what was failing on the steeple. Was it the roof that is holding it up, or is it rotted wood within the steeple itself. Figuring out what exactly is wrong with it will tell the tale as to whether it can be repaired.
One of the things that Youngstown has lost are craftsmen with workshops capable of tackling such a project. In smaller communities there may be a local woodworking shop or a retired carpenter that would take on such a project as a matter of pride for his community, but Youngstown doesn't seem to have as many of the hands on types left, and certainly there isn't much extra money floating around to hire professionals to do the job.
While it's really none of our business what the First Unitarian-Universalist Church opts to do, it would be sad if they replaced the steeple with a wind turbine which would detract from the beauty of the building. The same is true with solar panels.
I was on my backhoe all day digging an 8" sprinkler line for Nevels Temple (Elm). My company manages their landholdings. While I was there, the steeple was being craned down.
The Church called me to look at the steeple since I was referred to them because of my engineering background. I guess when they found out that I am a conservative/libertarian, they elected to spend more money .
I've heard that most members of the congregation don't live in Youngstown. But unlike other congregations, they did not relocate the church to the suburbs.
Am I missing something Jay? What does where the members live have to do with it? I applaud them that they kept their church here rather than to abandon it. The members of the Jewish church next door don't all live in Youngstown either, yet they are great neighbors.
Also, don't forget all the good work that First Unitarian does for the people of Youngstown, or should that be written off because the members don't all live in Youngstown?
I applaud the members of the church for keeping this facility open and functioning on behalf of the north side of Youngstown.
There's a church on Mahoning Avenue on the west side that seems to be home to a different congregation every few years. There have been occassions when the church building was empty for months at a time. Keeping any property occupied adds to the stability of a neighborhood.
Just where is that church on Mahoning Avenue? Is it currently in use as a church? If not, could it be purchased and used as a community center?
i am sure the ytown com will come out to raise funds for the steeple's repair job. the unitarian ch has frds from other rel com that will not hesitate to assist the uu ch.
Question:
One of the ideas for replacing the steeple is a wind turbine, but every wind turbine I've ever seen was mounted on a tall tower (note that I'm referencing only the ones I've seen with my own two eyes) and that tower is not exactly small in terms of diameter.
Likewise the blades are themselves very large.
When you combine the two elements ... the tower and the blades and include the anchoring points for the tower and the electrical gear you're talking about a lot of space.
Q1. Obviously the area on the roof of the church is small. It was not built to support the sort of tower that would be needed for a wind turbine. How much of a change in the building would be needed to support a wind turbine?
Q2. Assuming that they do go ahead and replace the steeple with a wind turbine, would that not put stress on the building which was not built for that purpose.
Q3. Would the church not have to make significant changes to the structure by closing off the main entrance which is directly under the existing steeple?
Q4. The University wanted to build a wind turbine, but the city said no, so would they not also say no to the church?
I think the wind turbine comment was made by someone talking out of his or her rear and with no basis in reality.
Quote from: Rick Rowlands on January 16, 2013, 02:17:25 PM
I think the wind turbine comment was made by someone talking out of his or her rear and with no basis in reality.
i agree with you rr.