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Youngstown & The Mahoning Valley => Youngstown in General => Topic started by: Towntalk on June 23, 2015, 06:20:30 PM

Title: God Bless Phantom Fireworks
Post by: Towntalk on June 23, 2015, 06:20:30 PM
When the city was informed that the company that was scheduled to do the 4th of July Youngstown fireworks that because they used another company for the New Year display that they would not do the 4th display. When Phantom Fireworks heard the news they stepped in and said that they will do the fireworks, and it will be the biggest ever. Thank You Bruce ... you are a real champion!
Title: Re: God Bless Phantom Fireworks
Post by: jay on June 23, 2015, 09:14:24 PM
I still don't like any fireworks being set off in my neighborhood by anybody.

It scares pets, litters the neighborhood, disturbs the elderly in nursing homes, creates air pollution, etc.
Title: Re: God Bless Phantom Fireworks
Post by: Towntalk on June 23, 2015, 09:45:25 PM
They aren't going to be in your neighborhood ... they're going to be at Covelli Centre or are you anti fireworks any time anywhere by any organization for any reason?
Title: Re: God Bless Phantom Fireworks
Post by: Towntalk on June 23, 2015, 10:09:44 PM
http://wytv.com/2015/06/23/youngstown-official-4th-of-july-display-will-be-best-ever/ (http://wytv.com/2015/06/23/youngstown-official-4th-of-july-display-will-be-best-ever/)
Title: Re: God Bless Phantom Fireworks
Post by: AllanY2525 on June 24, 2015, 01:24:06 AM


Covelli Center is a good location....lots of empty land, with room  to have the
spectators at a safe distance.
Title: Re: God Bless Phantom Fireworks
Post by: iwasthere on June 28, 2015, 04:59:59 PM
Quote from: jay on June 23, 2015, 09:14:24 PM
I still don't like any fireworks being set off in my neighborhood by anybody.

It scares pets, litters the neighborhood, disturbs the elderly in nursing homes, creates air pollution, etc.

do you still believe in Santa? bah humbug
Title: Re: God Bless Phantom Fireworks
Post by: AllanY2525 on July 01, 2015, 02:35:33 AM

I would like to set off some fireworks in my yard, but my neighbor
is a county sheriff and probably wouldn't be to happy about it.  Besides
that they are illegal where I live.....

smh.....

:(
Title: Re: God Bless Phantom Fireworks
Post by: Towntalk on July 01, 2015, 02:39:13 AM
 :'( :'( :'( :'(  Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah that's a bummer. This is what I say to your copper neighbor  :P :P :P :P :P >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: God Bless Phantom Fireworks
Post by: AllanY2525 on July 01, 2015, 02:49:56 AM


Yeah, I feel you Towntalk....wish they hadn't outlawed them.....somehow,
sparklers and colored smoke bombs just don't get it.
Title: Re: God Bless Phantom Fireworks
Post by: Towntalk on July 01, 2015, 02:50:45 AM
Goon night Allan, it's past my bedtme.
Title: Re: God Bless Phantom Fireworks
Post by: Towntalk on July 01, 2015, 08:50:27 AM
My Dad, a fireman back home use to get a can that had a lid on it, and make carbide bombs and explode them. They were just as loud as your M2 firecrackers. So loud that he would only set off one or two at the most. Were they dangerous? They sure gave the cans a major headache.
There was a toy cannon that used carbide, but lackng that, the tin can with a lid worked just as well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big-Bang_Cannon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big-Bang_Cannon)
Title: Re: God Bless Phantom Fireworks
Post by: Peggy Gurney on July 01, 2015, 01:55:17 PM
I would like to know WHY the fireworks are going to be on Friday the 3rd rather than Saturday the 4th?? 

It's just not the same.
Title: Re: God Bless Phantom Fireworks
Post by: iwasthere on July 01, 2015, 11:31:28 PM
The department of party planning screwed up.
Title: Re: God Bless Phantom Fireworks
Post by: AllanY2525 on July 01, 2015, 11:57:33 PM

We used to make soup can rockets.  Take an old can with one end already
opened, turn it upside down and make a small hole in the bottom, put in
a small firecracker, and set it in pan with a couple inches of water in it.

When the firecracker goes off, the can will jump about 20 or so feet into
the air.  The can will last for many, many launches. It's also pretty safe
since it sits in water and one end of the can is already wide open.

;D
Title: Re: God Bless Phantom Fireworks
Post by: Peggy Gurney on July 02, 2015, 12:04:33 AM
Quote from: iwasthere on July 01, 2015, 11:31:28 PM
The department of party planning screwed up.
Naw I got my answer.  The company who was to do the fireworks overbooked themselves and had to cancel with the city.
Phantom Fireworks offered to do it, but could only do it Friday night. 
So that's what they had to go with.
Title: Re: God Bless Phantom Fireworks
Post by: Towntalk on July 02, 2015, 12:06:25 AM
Three cheers for Peggy ... thank you my frend.
Title: Re: God Bless Phantom Fireworks
Post by: jay on July 02, 2015, 05:25:04 AM
I saw this on TV yesterday.

Fireworks can cause combat veterans to have flashbacks to their war experiences.  For the sake of our mentally stressed veterans, don't shoot off fireworks.
Title: Re: God Bless Phantom Fireworks
Post by: AllanY2525 on July 03, 2015, 02:14:17 AM
For the sake of our mentally stressed veterans:

Please do not go where fireworks or other explosions are present if you know
you have a problem with either flashbacks or shell shock, or generally just do
not care for fireworks or things that go "boom", "crack", or "pop".

This would include firing ranges, construction sites, rail yards, warehouses,
factories, ship yards, races where a starter's pistol is used,  and any other places
where these types of noises might occur.

PLEASE NOTE:  I am NOT in any way making light of those veterans  who have
mental or emotional problems as a result of having served their country. What
I AM making light of, is the expectation that NO ONE should set off fireworks
on account of those few who have these disabilities. 

Surely, there are places where people can enjoy celebrating one of our biggest
national holidays in a traditional way that has existed for over two centuries,
in relative safety. 

Surely those with shell shock, flashbacks, etc. should be trusted to use the
comon sense that GOD blessed them with and NOT go there if it is going to
be a problem for them - and to decide for themselves if this is going to be
the case.

Absent any local laws or ordinances forbidding the setting off of fireworks,
citizens have every right to do so, within reason and as defined by said
laws and ordinances.  If this means that folks may be setting them off in their
neighborhoods, bear in mind that this comes around only one day a year.

Fireworks are completely banned where I live, and I know of several veterans
who are very unhappy about this, as they relish this national tradition and
celebration of the birth of our nation.
Title: Re: God Bless Phantom Fireworks
Post by: jay on July 03, 2015, 08:49:37 PM
There were two news stories on the TV this evening.

Smoke from fireworks aggravates the health problems of people with asthma.

In dry regions of the county, it could cause grass/forest fires.
Title: Re: God Bless Phantom Fireworks
Post by: AllanY2525 on July 04, 2015, 01:31:10 AM
Asthmatic reactions are more likely to be triggered by:

Cigarette smoke
Dust mites
Cold air or changes in humidity
Pollution due to ozone, car exhaust, etc.
Stress
Pollen
General allergies
Certain foods
Pets/animals

Fireworks are set off outside, where there is plenty of fresh air around to dissipate
the smoke ie: not the same as being inside a smoke filled room.  One would think
that knowing they have asthma, people with this affliction would have the common
sense to not put themselves in close proximity to outdoor fireworks smoke.

Once again, it's not fair to expect the general population to forego a traditional
OUTDOOR celebration for a small subset of the population who have the ability to
easily avoid the area for a little while.

With regard to grass and fires, the odds are much greater that they would be started
by camp fires, burning cigarettes, barbecue grills, gas powered lanterns, patio torches,
etc ie: activities that take place more than once a year - in fact every day during warm
weather months and all year long for those who smoke cigarettes (or anything else, for
that matter....LOL ).

Public fireworks displays almost always have fire and safety personnel on site during
the show.  Private individuals simply need to excercise the same due diligence
they would for any other combustible substance.  Just ask Smokey The Bear.

Case in point: an estimated eight to ten thousand people enjoyed a fireworks
show in Austintown yesterday, apparently with no issues, either this year OR
the past two years.  I'll make a wild guess that persons with major Asthma
problems most likely opted to not attend the fireworks show, or simply exercised
common sense and maintained their distance from the smoke......

http://www.vindy.com/news/2015/jul/03/thousands-gather-austintown-plaza-observe-holiday/
Title: Re: God Bless Phantom Fireworks
Post by: Towntalk on July 04, 2015, 08:48:24 AM
Calm down Allan, the truth beknown Jay loves fireworks just as much as you do. He just takes that postion to generate thoughtful conversation. I'll bet that he was downtown watchng Youngstown's fireworks last night.
Title: Re: God Bless Phantom Fireworks
Post by: Irishbobcat on July 04, 2015, 03:23:27 PM
I hate neighborhood fireworks as well. My dog will shake for hours today and tonight. Leave the fireworks for professional shows only.
Title: Re: God Bless Phantom Fireworks
Post by: AllanY2525 on July 05, 2015, 05:23:25 AM


Towntalk - completely calm here already, trust me.....I was only making the counter argument
to promote the same discussion.....


:)

Title: Re: God Bless Phantom Fireworks
Post by: Irishbobcat on July 05, 2015, 08:49:55 AM
Nothing like the smell of sulphur in the air with haze last night, my neighborhood sounding like a war zone, and litter all over the streets today....thank you Phantom Fireworks....now go enjoy the next ten months off......
Title: Re: God Bless Phantom Fireworks
Post by: Towntalk on July 05, 2015, 10:48:19 AM
Things were very quiet where I live.  ;D No booms - no bangs - no pops - nadda  :D  Just glorious quiet.  :)
Title: Re: God Bless Phantom Fireworks
Post by: jay on July 05, 2015, 12:40:47 PM
Someone in my neighborhood started launching aerial fireworks around 9:00 p.m.  This went on for more than one hour.  The smell of burnt gunpowder filled my residence.

:'(
Title: Re: God Bless Phantom Fireworks
Post by: Irishbobcat on July 05, 2015, 01:35:29 PM
Fireworks in my neighborhood lasted well past midnight......idiots....
Title: Re: God Bless Phantom Fireworks
Post by: Youngstownshrimp on July 05, 2015, 03:12:00 PM
The Northside was awash with cannon and brimstone.  As always I slept  like a baby.  Once you get use to the hail of gunfire and chaos here, the 4th is just pinnacle of it all.
Title: Re: God Bless Phantom Fireworks
Post by: jay on July 05, 2015, 08:09:28 PM
90% of the fireworks are made in china.
Title: Re: God Bless Phantom Fireworks
Post by: AllanY2525 on July 06, 2015, 04:34:02 AM

I read an article about the proprietor of Phantom....seems they employ about 400 American
People, full time.  No surprise about Chinese fireworks.....they practically invented them.