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Title: Citizen Action
Post by: jay on September 24, 2009, 08:38:50 PM
This concerned citizen was observed sweeping the parking area in front of 20 Federal Place today. 

When he arrived downtown this morning the parking space was full of glass from a broken beverage bottle.  He asked the parking ticket lady to try to get the glass removed.  She supposedly replied that it wasn't her job and then left.  At this point the gentleman removed a broom from the trunk of his nearby car and swept the street.

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Title: Re: Citizen Action
Post by: Why?Town on September 24, 2009, 09:43:17 PM
I'm impressed!
Title: Re: Citizen Action
Post by: iwasthere on September 26, 2009, 12:51:59 PM
i am not surprised by these outsourced job workers' responses. :o
Title: Re: Citizen Action
Post by: Rushblvd on September 28, 2009, 08:34:06 AM
I am wondering why that license plate is blurrrrrrred out?
I recognize that broom from a somewhere? ummmm
Title: Re: Citizen Action
Post by: Why?Town on September 28, 2009, 09:34:50 AM
As it is customary to protect innocent people by blurring their faces, it now customary to protect innocent cars by blurring their plate. ;)

Actually there has been some discussion of the merits of blurring the plate number on a couple of the automotive boards I frequent. The opinions range anywhere from "Who really cares? They can easily see my plate number in person 24 hours a day." to "OMG! Any one of 3 billion internet users can see my great car and all the time/money I spent on it, run my plate, find my address, travel (from potentially around the world) to my house/work and steal my baby!"

I'm in the "Who cares?" group.

Those in the second group are rarely seen outside their mother's basement and can be easily identified by their tinfoil caps.
Title: Re: Citizen Action
Post by: Rick Rowlands on September 28, 2009, 12:20:00 PM
Blurring plates and even faces when they are out in public is silly.  There is no expectation of privacy when on public property.
Title: Re: Citizen Action
Post by: Rushblvd on September 28, 2009, 12:51:49 PM
After reading the comment from Why?Town regarding the blurring business I have to kinda of agree with it. The internet is a tool that can be good  :laugh: or bad >:(.  I have to believe that if someone wants that broom bad enough they will find it and the person using it.  Be careful Mr. Broom Sweeper
Title: Re: Citizen Action
Post by: iwasthere on September 29, 2009, 11:59:46 AM
maybe that person wants to be nameless fearing he has to pay back streetsweepers union dues. ;D rush gal maybe the reason why you reconize the broom, you traded it in when they had cash for clankers progams :) ;) :D ;D 8) ::) :-X :-* :laugh:.
Title: Re: Citizen Action
Post by: Lynds on September 29, 2009, 05:36:26 PM
that broom wasnt made in America ;)
Title: Re: Citizen Action
Post by: Rick Rowlands on September 29, 2009, 06:10:34 PM
I think the real story here is" Who is this crazy fool taking a picture of me sweeping up some glass!" :) 
Title: Re: Citizen Action
Post by: iwasthere on September 29, 2009, 07:17:47 PM
a concern retired city worker took the pic to make sure it wasn't a union job taken away from its streetsweeper's union members. ;) the broom was made in the USA by a one arm, one foot, one eye and one nostril, who does belong to the one arm,foot, eye and nostril ascme union.
Title: Re: Citizen Action
Post by: Towntalk on September 29, 2009, 07:29:01 PM
Does that mean that were I to own a store downtown and saw some broken glass in front of my shop on the curb that I'd have to leave it until some city worker got off his extended coffee/lunch brake long enough to sweep it up?

Could I be held responsable if someone gets hurt?

I hardly think the city would own up to it.
Title: Re: Citizen Action
Post by: Rushblvd on September 30, 2009, 09:32:52 AM
I think the real story here is the BROOM and not the sweeper. The broom is a tool used by few, as evident by the dirty streets, but when used can be quite effective. I would like to think that the person in the picture using that broom knows what he is doing. I would say he does. By the pure sweeping motion, he has done this before. Where, I do not know, but my breakdown of the situation I would say somewhere that has a union. Yes there is a look of disgust on his face, but I would say that is with the individual(s) who broke the glass on the street, not with him sweeping.. So I say Kudos's to you Mr. Sweeper. Sweep away and do not let anyone discourage you... :laugh:
Title: Re: Citizen Action
Post by: iwasthere on September 30, 2009, 12:48:21 PM
towntalk that is what some of the downtown merchants are saying to patrons that do business in the downtown area in ytown. i shop ytown downtown a regular basis and the streets and sidewalks are in deplorable conditions given to responsible and irresponsible shopkeeper. sasho and gilliam knows the blight of the downtown and it is their job to see to it that the downtown is shines 24/7. Blvd gal i bet the streetsweeper will buy you a choice of your adult beverage the next time he sees you in the downtown area, only if he knew you. rush gal if you see him downtown sweeping again go up to him and introduce you to him and strike up a conversation. i bet he can give you the lowdown on the downtown gossip then you and commie neighbor can discuss the downtown news and spread it around the Blvd. :D :-X
Title: Re: Citizen Action
Post by: Rushblvd on September 30, 2009, 02:02:43 PM
lowdown of downtown gossip, I'm there. 2-things--yes I love adult beverages so I will seek out the sweeper in hopes that he will talk to me and buy me a beverage and I love the gossip...The businesses should always make sure the sidewalks are swept in front of there building it makes it look nice..Do not --I REPEAT DO NOT wait for the city to come do it--they are not coming so just do it...iwasthere just to let you in on a secret--my pinko ommie neighbor has not been around..Have you seen him?
Title: Re: Citizen Action
Post by: Towntalk on September 30, 2009, 02:30:58 PM
iwasthere:

When I worked downtown, the first thing I did every morning before our store opened was to sweep the doorway, sidewalk and curb in front of the store. There was no arguments ... just pride in our business and respect for our customers.

During the day, if one of our workers saw a mess outside we didn't wait for someone to complain, we just got out there with a broom and cleaned it up, and in the winter the sidewalks were cleaned and salted (the whole sidewalk and not just a path.)

Our company had three downtown stores, one on the Square and two on East Federal and all three had the same policy.
Title: Re: Citizen Action
Post by: iwasthere on October 01, 2009, 11:48:19 AM
towntalk what store did you work for in the downtown? rushgal i heard your pinko commie gossip frd is waiting for the word to move into his apt but he has to wait until the present day tennant signs paper for her new home in austintown that canbe anyday now that is the gossip on the downtown streets as of this hour.
Title: Re: Citizen Action
Post by: Towntalk on October 01, 2009, 11:50:54 AM
Klivan Jewelry at their Rendano Jewelry branch on East Federal.
Title: Re: Citizen Action
Post by: iwasthere on October 01, 2009, 11:53:16 AM
towntalk i do remember seeing the sign for your jewelry store when i started to shop downtown as an upcoming young adult in the early 1980's.
Title: Re: Citizen Action
Post by: Towntalk on October 01, 2009, 11:59:26 AM
Harold Klivan and his uncle were great folks to work for.

Learned a lot about jewelry from Nate (the Uncle).

Also met a lot of interesting people. One that comes to mind was Jimmy Pinto a comedian that played the Park Berlesque. He would come into the store every time he played Youngstown and would tell us about the good old days when he played on the bill with folks like Red Skelton.

Title: Re: Citizen Action
Post by: Towntalk on October 01, 2009, 06:12:37 PM
I believe that the store you're referring to was on North Phelps and was owned by Ralph Rendano. His sons own New York Music.

The store I worked at was on East Federal, a few doors west of the Regent Theater.

During the 1960's Urban Renewal all the stores on the East End were closed and torn down.

Some of the stores moved up to the west end ... Crown Jewelry ... Hughs Provisions and Ralph went into business for himself.

When New York Music moved to Boardman, he went with them and closed his downtown store.

Title: Re: Citizen Action
Post by: iwasthere on October 02, 2009, 01:53:09 PM
the subs were the demise of downtown stores :'( towntalk do you remember a blind piano player that used to play at the Fiesta Lounge on hazel? i used to go to Fiesta Lounge to go to hear him play. I wonder what ever happen to him?
Title: Re: Citizen Action
Post by: Towntalk on October 02, 2009, 04:52:57 PM
You've got that right.

As for the Fiesta Lounge, I was in there only once during lunch break with a couple of people from work and don't recall a piano player.

For many of the folks at work, the most popular spot was The Backstage Lounge.
Title: Re: Citizen Action
Post by: iwasthere on October 03, 2009, 12:01:06 PM
towntalk where was the backstage lounge located?
Title: Re: Citizen Action
Post by: Towntalk on October 03, 2009, 12:05:15 PM
On West Boardman in the State Theater building. It was a favorite watering hole for Vindicator employees and of course Bull Moose Hanni.
Title: Re: Citizen Action
Post by: iwasthere on October 03, 2009, 12:09:30 PM
towntalk i bet you have some interesting stories about place aka vindicator's reporters and ole man bullmoose :-X :-\ ;D
Title: Re: Citizen Action
Post by: Towntalk on October 03, 2009, 12:19:50 PM
After 22 years at the Vindicator I sure do, and as for the Bull Moose I have a large collection of material on him. When I lived on the East Side we went to the same church, and I got to know him quite well.

As for other colorful folks, I saw them come and go like the big splash the old Vince DeNero made on Market Street and of course good old Sandy Naples, and Frank R. Franko.

Title: Re: Citizen Action
Post by: iwasthere on October 03, 2009, 12:26:36 PM
towntalk you should write short stories on this forum about your twenty-two years at thevindy. :-X
Title: Re: Citizen Action
Post by: Towntalk on October 03, 2009, 12:43:00 PM
iwasthere:

As an educator, you may find these two web sites useful.


This for historic audio clips.

http://www.archive.org/details/oldtimeradio

This for a wealth of books that are free to download.

http://www.archive.org/details/texts


I always worked the graveyard shift and nothing really exciting ever happened. I do recall when the New Park Burlesque burnt down and recall watching the teletype machines send out the news about the murder of Bobby Kennedy.