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Title: Let's Move to Maine! No Big Box Stores Allowed To Open on Thanksgiving
Post by: irishbobcat on November 14, 2012, 01:21:28 PM
Maine does it right!

http://www.aol.com/video/maine-law-prevents-big-box-stores-from-opening-on-thanksgiving/517538624/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmaing9%7Cdl27%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D234435 (http://www.aol.com/video/maine-law-prevents-big-box-stores-from-opening-on-thanksgiving/517538624/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmaing9%7Cdl27%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D234435)
Title: Re: Let's Move to Maine! No Big Box Stores Allowed To Open on Thanksgiving
Post by: Why?Town on November 14, 2012, 05:10:21 PM
In my opinion the people that would want to go out shopping on the major holidays are somewhat screwy....... just like the people that felt a need for this law to save the screwballs from themselves..
Title: Re: Let's Move to Maine! No Big Box Stores Allowed To Open on Thanksgiving
Post by: sfc_oliver on November 14, 2012, 06:02:38 PM
Can we say over regulation?
Title: Re: Let's Move to Maine! No Big Box Stores Allowed To Open on Thanksgiving
Post by: irishbobcat on November 14, 2012, 08:42:27 PM
Sarge, if you consider this over-regualtion, then you must have been very unhappy when we had blue laws in your younger years....
Title: Re: Let's Move to Maine! No Big Box Stores Allowed To Open on Thanksgiving
Post by: sfc_oliver on November 14, 2012, 10:16:05 PM
If I remember right , blue laws controlled alcohol sales on Sunday.

This prevent all sales of anything......... Except maybe food.

So what do you do with a super Walmart?
Title: Re: Let's Move to Maine! No Big Box Stores Allowed To Open on Thanksgiving
Post by: kenneyjoe330 on November 15, 2012, 12:59:35 AM
As far as I am concerned this country will never be great until we show proper R E S P E C T for the Ten Commandments and as any Christian should be able to tell you the THIRD one deals with keeping "The Lord's Day" HOLY .
I remember the Blue Laws controlled the sale of ANYTHING except food and gas and those two items the restaurants or gas station HAD to be on a STATE ROUTE for it to be opened.  I remember even drug stores were CLOSED on Sunday ! ! !  I also remember Sears being closed on Sunday when the Southern Park Mall first opened - most other stores were opened but NOT Sears ! ! !
Title: Re: Let's Move to Maine! No Big Box Stores Allowed To Open on Thanksgiving
Post by: irishbobcat on November 15, 2012, 05:46:07 AM
Sarge, When I was growing up in the 60's other than a full-service gas station and some small mom and pop stores....everything was closed on Sundays.
Title: Re: Let's Move to Maine! No Big Box Stores Allowed To Open on Thanksgiving
Post by: jay on November 15, 2012, 07:04:28 AM
Don't forget that Buy Nothing Day is Friday, November 23.
Title: Re: Let's Move to Maine! No Big Box Stores Allowed To Open on Thanksgiving
Post by: iwasthere on November 15, 2012, 09:20:54 AM
how about the agnosist and athesits people who want to shop on holidays and sundays.
Title: Re: Let's Move to Maine! No Big Box Stores Allowed To Open on Thanksgiving
Post by: Towntalk on November 15, 2012, 11:08:18 AM
I hadn't planned to do any shopping on Thanksgiving Day, but since certain people are urging us not to shop that day, I think that it should also include every restaurant, movie theater, hey even the radio and TV stations, and the newspapers. Total shutdown. ;D :laugh: ;D  All the folks that work in these places have families that will be shoveling down turkey, stuffing, and all the fixings without them.  :'(

I'm sure that we could get along just fine without TV, movies and eating out for one day.  :P

Title: Re: Let's Move to Maine! No Big Box Stores Allowed To Open on Thanksgiving
Post by: irishbobcat on November 15, 2012, 12:24:32 PM
Towntalk....yup. you're right to an extent.....I guess if a store wants to be open on Thanksgiving, then please make sure the CEO and everyone who makes the decision to open be at work that day...\


I just find it hard to believe big box stores have to now open on Thanksgiving.....Why do major stores want people in their places Thanksgiving night and at 4am on Friday morning?

I was in J.C. Penney last year on Black Friday from 1pm to 6pm....after all the sales ended. The place was empty.....They were more employees in the store than customers. Why be open during the afternoon and evening when the store was basically emptied? It that's the case, then open Thanksgiving night and close at noon on Friday....

Title: Re: Let's Move to Maine! No Big Box Stores Allowed To Open on Thanksgiving
Post by: sfc_oliver on November 15, 2012, 12:39:11 PM
Yes, for the most part we could shut down just about everything for one day a year and no one would be hurt by it or really miss anything, other than the traditional Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade and the also traditional Footbal games......

But to tell people they cannot shop because it's the law?

And let us remember also the first amendment:

"Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"

Everyone in the USA is not a Christian. No matter how much some might wish it so......
Title: Re: Let's Move to Maine! No Big Box Stores Allowed To Open on Thanksgiving
Post by: sfc_oliver on November 15, 2012, 12:44:07 PM
I could be wrong (wouldn't be the first or last time) but I do believe these stores are opening for 2 reasons.

1. The economy is in the toilet and they need every opportunity to make a buck.

2. There is a perception that enough people want them to be open that they figure it's worth it.
Title: Re: Let's Move to Maine! No Big Box Stores Allowed To Open on Thanksgiving
Post by: iwasthere on November 15, 2012, 01:57:31 PM
tt i ditto
Title: Re: Let's Move to Maine! No Big Box Stores Allowed To Open on Thanksgiving
Post by: kenneyjoe330 on November 18, 2012, 04:00:45 PM
I think it could be summed up in one word :  Capitalism
Title: Re: Let's Move to Maine! No Big Box Stores Allowed To Open on Thanksgiving
Post by: Rick Rowlands on November 18, 2012, 06:18:36 PM
I don't even see why this is an issue worthy of discussion.  These stores are privately owned and whether it is open or closed makes no difference to me.  Its the busybody attitude that pervades America that brings about absolutely insane laws such as this one in Maine.   
Title: Re: Let's Move to Maine! No Big Box Stores Allowed To Open on Thanksgiving
Post by: iwasthere on November 18, 2012, 06:42:49 PM
if people just learn that the bargains that these stores offer on these days aren't really bargains. the consumers save later on during the xmas season and after then into the new year. so stay home enjoy the parades, entries,  fam and frds companionship, football games and have a piece of pumpkin pie with a nice cup of black hot coffee
Title: Re: Let's Move to Maine! No Big Box Stores Allowed To Open on Thanksgiving
Post by: sfc_oliver on November 18, 2012, 07:11:44 PM
I've never gone shopping on Black Friday, I certainly won't start going on Thanks giving.

But Some people live to shop...........
Title: Re: Let's Move to Maine! No Big Box Stores Allowed To Open on Thanksgiving
Post by: Towntalk on November 18, 2012, 07:31:12 PM
 :)  Ditto  :)

Come to think about it, I already have all the shopping I'll be doing done now so far as Christmas gifts.
Title: Re: Let's Move to Maine! No Big Box Stores Allowed To Open on Thanksgiving
Post by: irishbobcat on November 18, 2012, 07:52:52 PM
Privately owned or not, How many of the big CEO's of these stores will be working on Thanksgiving?
Maybe all employees need to call in sick.....
Title: Re: Let's Move to Maine! No Big Box Stores Allowed To Open on Thanksgiving
Post by: sfc_oliver on November 18, 2012, 08:04:54 PM
Or maybe it's none of our business who is working on Thanksgiving and who is not...... Seems to me it's their choice.....
Title: Re: Let's Move to Maine! No Big Box Stores Allowed To Open on Thanksgiving
Post by: irishbobcat on November 19, 2012, 08:53:25 AM
I guess the bottom line is only when Americans decide to stay home and not shop on Thanksgiving and these box stores have hundreds of employees standing around doing nothing...will stores not try to open on Thanksgiving....

I know my wife is thinking about shopping Thursday... just sad.
Title: Re: Let's Move to Maine! No Big Box Stores Allowed To Open on Thanksgiving
Post by: iwasthere on November 19, 2012, 09:18:15 PM
it is going to be interesting if the walmart employees follow suit on with their anticipated strike on black friday.
Title: Re: Let's Move to Maine! No Big Box Stores Allowed To Open on Thanksgiving
Post by: Rick Rowlands on November 20, 2012, 12:12:24 AM
Why would CEOs have to work thanksgiving?  They already set the strategy for their Christmas season kickoff, and now its up to the front line people to carry it out. 
Title: Re: Let's Move to Maine! No Big Box Stores Allowed To Open on Thanksgiving
Post by: irishbobcat on November 20, 2012, 08:15:12 AM
They should lead by example.....and start planning post-holiday stategy.
Title: Re: Let's Move to Maine! No Big Box Stores Allowed To Open on Thanksgiving
Post by: iwasthere on November 20, 2012, 10:36:00 AM
a good leader is out in front with its teammates knowing at all times what is going on in the frt lns.
Title: Re: Let's Move to Maine! No Big Box Stores Allowed To Open on Thanksgiving
Post by: Towntalk on November 20, 2012, 10:56:35 AM
At my favorite store in the whole wide world, the manager is not sittlng back with his feet up on the desk, but right out there helping stock the shelves ... he's a great gentleman who treats both his employees and his customers the way he would want to be treated and this is a 24/7 store that for all intent and purpose is a mini shopping center, and his ethics show in the attitude of his employees toward the customers. Of course paying him a compliment now and then goes a long way. As to the workers, they treat every customer as if they are something special.
Title: Re: Let's Move to Maine! No Big Box Stores Allowed To Open on Thanksgiving
Post by: iwasthere on November 20, 2012, 05:36:12 PM
are you talking about henry nemez?
Title: Re: Let's Move to Maine! No Big Box Stores Allowed To Open on Thanksgiving
Post by: Towntalk on November 20, 2012, 05:57:28 PM
No, I'm referring to the folks at the Churchill Commons Giant Eagle.

It's gotten to the place where the folks in the Deli and Service meats know what I want even before I tell them, the manager stops to say hi when he sees me, the bagger knows me by name since I have been shopping at Giant Eagle for as long as I've lived on the North Side (about 30 years).

I suppose that you and others have a store that they look forward to shopping at but here I'm just relating my own experiences.
Title: Re: Let's Move to Maine! No Big Box Stores Allowed To Open on Thanksgiving
Post by: iwasthere on November 20, 2012, 08:57:10 PM
brown's drugstore is similiar to your exp. they know what drug i need to keep me docile that i am out of that month. sparkle mkt was like that when the cohen fam owned the grocery store. i do not know how it is since there are new owners. it is comforting to know there are stores that put a human touch to thier services.
Title: Re: Let's Move to Maine! No Big Box Stores Allowed To Open on Thanksgiving
Post by: sfc_oliver on November 20, 2012, 09:05:18 PM
I do most of our shopping at the Giant Eagle in Poland. It's pretty much the same way. The managers and about half of the cashiers know me by name, and the one girl in floral goes out of her way to get me exactly what I need. She put the wreath for the bridge dedication together and didn't charge us for the extra flowers she added. Now if I could get the Pharmacy to be as cooperative and as nice............